Originally Posted by Avroman

I didn't believe it.. I actually called TW and the gang out on it and was all but thrown out of the room... I'm far from the top of the list guys that got hosed by that... I'm one of the last not the first to go interview.

Originally Posted by 53x11

The wording of that SSP was not good. Many of us questioned the union about it. Like the fact they promised Delta would take 144 /yr, then 180/yr, etc., (12/month avg increasing to 15/month) or X % of new hires. The problem many of us noticed was Delta could adjust their hiring #'s down, which they did slightly last year, and thus not be required to meet the 144.(because it was 144 or X% of newhires) Also, the 144 was a yearly commitment, therefore technically as long as all 144 were in training by Dec 31st, the requirement would be met.

Originally Posted by Avroman

And let me guess TW acted insulted you'd even question it... (Karma, TW, Karma)

Originally Posted by chrisreedrules

Funny how the American/USAir/AWest pilots think the flows are excellent and think that mainline American should be taking more flows. And I'm pretty sure they were all hired through an interview. Are Delta pilots somehow superior to them? It is after all the exact same job. No one at a WO regional (be it Endevaor or one of the AAG WOs) feels we "deserve" a job at mainline. But let's be real here. When someone buys a ticket on Delta or American, and the flight gets flown by their regional subsidiary, why are those pilots "good enough" to fly YOUR passengers at their regional under your brand, but not on your actual airplanes? The SSP that Endeavor has with Delta turns down many qualified applicants. Sometimes twice. But hey, it's okay, they can still fly your passengers around under your brand who bought tickets to fly on your airline. Sounds a little ludicrous doesn't it? I'm glad the culture at American isn't like that.

Originally Posted by Yumyum

You're correct.....Elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Bartender

Yet Delta is now having 80 hour IOE's. It is becoming a safety issue at Delta now with the quick upgrade. The low time hires can now be captain with a low time FO. This will be interesting. It's going to catch up to Delta.

Originally Posted by Bartender

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Many line pilots at Delta are tired of playing baby sitter while you bypass great high time regional guys. The hiring practices are showing.

Originally Posted by Bartender

Some of you need to get out of the puzzle palace and talk to the line folks. It's getting interesting out there and yet nobody wants to acknowledge it. You wouldn't have to increase IOE to 75 hours in the first year if it wasn't a problem.

Originally Posted by gloopy

By that logic, Endeavor pilots should get automatic jobs at DL, but SkyWest pilots should get automatic jobs at DL, UA, AS and whoever else they fly for this week because they "fly their passengers"?

Originally Posted by gloopy

By that logic, Endeavor pilots should get automatic jobs at DL, but SkyWest pilots should get automatic jobs at DL, UA, AS and whoever else they fly for this week because they "fly their passengers"?