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Old 11-14-2016, 07:43 PM
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It's a problem. Flight Ops knows it is a problem. HR is running the show. Look at the IOE times.
The OE time of 75 hours is an across the board threat mitigation from flight ops management for anyone making captain with less than a year at the airline. They want to make sure the quick upgrade has the appropriate mentoring before being released into the wild regardless of the background of whoever it may be.

It's not due to poor performance of others on OE.
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Old 11-14-2016, 07:44 PM
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Please tell how you know what's going in Flt Ops and our Pilot Selection department.
Because people on the inside aren't happy about what is going on.
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Old 11-14-2016, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
The OE time of 75 hours is an across the board threat mitigation from flight ops management for anyone making captain with less than a year at the airline. They want to make sure the quick upgrade has the appropriate mentoring before being released into the wild regardless of the background of whoever it may be.

It's not due to poor performance of others on OE.
Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Many line pilots at Delta are tired of playing baby sitter while you bypass great high time regional guys. The hiring practices are showing.
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Old 11-14-2016, 07:46 PM
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Because people on the inside aren't happy about what is going on.
How does an ASA pilot have any insider information about this? Time to reveal your source(s) to maintain any amount of credibility.
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Old 11-14-2016, 07:47 PM
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How does an ASA pilot have any insider information about this? Time to reveal your source(s) to maintain any amount of credibility.
You would be surprised what is discussed during lunch on Virginia Ave.
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Old 11-14-2016, 07:47 PM
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Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Many line pilots at Delta are tired of playing baby sitter while you bypass great high time regional guys. The hiring practices are showing.
I work in training and see the data and feedback. You're absolutely incorrect. Sorry.
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Old 11-14-2016, 07:50 PM
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You would be surprised what is discussed during lunch on Virginia Ave.
So how many times have your advances towards Delta been rebuffed? Attitude is everything at Delta. You have to know when to let things go.
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Old 11-14-2016, 07:52 PM
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I work in training and see the data and feedback. You're absolutely incorrect. Sorry.
Some of you need to get out of the puzzle palace and talk to the line folks. It's getting interesting out there and yet nobody wants to acknowledge it. You wouldn't have to increase IOE to 75 hours in the first year if it wasn't a problem.
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Old 11-14-2016, 07:52 PM
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Delta has always been the primadonna airline. I remember many Delta pilots voicing their disapproval during their merger with Northwest. Not to the level of U.S. Airways/America West, but there were many segregating the two groups by saying Delta North or Delta South with the arrogance that Delta South were the superior pilots. Maybe in time this will change, but I would say if you can't embrace their culture maybe Delta shouldn't be your first choice
Quite the characterization. A few south guys did express some disdain for the north side.

For the most part that was not the case. Mergers always have some contention and turd tossing...you should know that given the colgan/XJ merger.

We've ended up as one overall happy group who apparently universally hate light chop and making eye contact with you JV scum.
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Old 11-14-2016, 07:53 PM
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Some of you need to get out of the puzzle palace and talk to the line folks. It's getting interesting out there and yet nobody wants to acknowledge it. You wouldn't have to increase IOE to 75 hours in the first year if it wasn't a problem.
That is only for someone upgrading to captain in the first year, not for their initial OE. They don't have to increase IOE to 75 hours... they are doing it to make sure the quick upgrades get the appropriate mentoring.

Methinks someone may be drinking and posting tonight...
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