Well if by junior you mean over 11 years here, Yup, reserve with little hope of getting off again anytime soon. (Spare me the "then move to New York", we don't make anywere near enough to afford that)

 

Yeah, you did say, albeit indirectly, you feel you deserve flow because you fly Delta passengers. How else am I supposed to take that? Why else would you react so vehemently towards someone trying to show the bigger picture?

Some at Delta are against the concept of a flow. They are not against you as a pilot. I think you're taking this too personally.

I'll say it again because it's worth repeating. You nor I are in control of this. It is just business and until those in charge see it a different way, the current process is the way it'll be. Shoot the messenger all you want but it's the really of the situation.


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I think the bigger problem is the way some of the SSP pilots were treated during the interview process. How would you have taken an interview at US Air where at the end the manager in charge of the hiring tells you "You aren't Airways material, but I hear Spirit is hiring. Oh but while you wait for that keep doing the best job possible at Air Wisconsin flying our passengers around"

That has a way of putting a bad taste in your mouth when you then have to go back to flying (fill in the brand) light. If I'm not good enough to fly at Mainline, I shouldn't be considered good enough to fly at the express/connection carrier either, especially with how much all the airlines go out of their way to hide the difference to the passengers.

 

That's what I'm saying Avro, reserve rules need to be improved and movement off the top needs to happen.

 

Of course that would suck. How many SSPers were given this speech? Far be it for me to challenge the accuracy of that info but if it's a one sided story then I have to wonder. If the Delta manager in charge of hiring actually said this then it's way out of his known character which is one of high standards.

What's the grand total percentage of successful SSP interviews? I'm wondering because I don't know and have never seen it published anywhere.




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It started off as an 80% no. More than half of the nos were the fly off and die. Before delta had to shut this down from attrition they extended it to FOs and over all the fos have something like a 75% yes. Couple captains have got the yes the second time.

Grand total is a 50-50 Coin toss betwen ca and fo but I don't have exact numbers in front of me.

 

I'm not against a flow under the right circumstances (although remember, what flows up, must flow down) but I don't think management will go for it so its a dead issue. What is the SSP interview success rate? This may be impossible to do, but now take out all the bad attitudes and grossly insufficient preparers and what's the percentage then? Probably pretty high. I bet the average "off the street" hire puts in some massive hours preparing for a DL/UA/AA/etc interview. What percentage of the SSP (especially early ones) did that in your honest opinion? In any case I don't see DL management ever going for a flow when there are other ways to get as many pilots from pretty much any regional that they want. YMMV.

As for being "against DCI", we're just against the outsourcing of our jobs that's all. We're not "against Alaska" we're just against DL management filling up half the seats on 14 flights a day between a single city pair without us flying it once (that's an extreme example and has been corrected due to market forces but not due to our scope and that needs to change to prevent it from occurring in the future).

 

Anyone know if there will be a vacancy bid before 2016 ends?

 

Yes, information in last Fridays Union email.

 

Inc maybe,
S airlines doesn't have Delta 200s expiring this year though.

Every year we have had and are scheduled to have planes come off contract.