Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
01-12-2018, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
Yeah, upon thinking about it more, if they added the 3 hours on you during the 5-day trip, then it becomes part of the 25 hours. Just like if you did a gate return or diverted, those hours would count towards the 25 as well. Sorry man.
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01-12-2018, 07:35 PM
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Hi peeps,
I have been reading this thread for the last few days and wanted to see if I could get verification on something I read a few pages back. I can't find it now, but someone mentioned that some new hires were getting awarded CA positions before out of initial training. From an inside source, I was told they were not aware of this happening. Also was told your company has a required number of hours to be flown on property before you can be eligible for the left seat.
Can anybody verify the time frame of the quickest recent upgrades and what base/equipment were awarded.
Thanks!
I have been reading this thread for the last few days and wanted to see if I could get verification on something I read a few pages back. I can't find it now, but someone mentioned that some new hires were getting awarded CA positions before out of initial training. From an inside source, I was told they were not aware of this happening. Also was told your company has a required number of hours to be flown on property before you can be eligible for the left seat.
Can anybody verify the time frame of the quickest recent upgrades and what base/equipment were awarded.
Thanks!
01-12-2018, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Palmtree Pilot
Hi peeps,
I have been reading this thread for the last few days and wanted to see if I could get verification on something I read a few pages back. I can't find it now, but someone mentioned that some new hires were getting awarded CA positions before out of initial training. From an inside source, I was told they were not aware of this happening. Also was told your company has a required number of hours to be flown on property before you can be eligible for the left seat.
Can anybody verify the time frame of the quickest recent upgrades and what base/equipment were awarded.
Thanks!
I have been reading this thread for the last few days and wanted to see if I could get verification on something I read a few pages back. I can't find it now, but someone mentioned that some new hires were getting awarded CA positions before out of initial training. From an inside source, I was told they were not aware of this happening. Also was told your company has a required number of hours to be flown on property before you can be eligible for the left seat.
Can anybody verify the time frame of the quickest recent upgrades and what base/equipment were awarded.
Thanks!
01-12-2018, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by vessbot
Minimum company hours is nominally 1000, but has been waived down to almost nothing for every vacancy announcement in recent memory. Most junior CA on the list is a November hire. And we just got a memo reiterating how hiring will focus on people with the 1000 legal time, allowing a quick upgrade.
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01-12-2018, 09:28 PM
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Training is roughly 90 days. Then OE of 25 hours, more it needed. Then consolidation of knowledge (100 hours). After that, you are complete. No training elsewhere, except that we do have a sim in PHX.
You can get awarded CA in training of the company needs you. And they have the past two awards. Not quite street CA, but close enough that you couldn’t tell the difference.
You can get awarded CA in training of the company needs you. And they have the past two awards. Not quite street CA, but close enough that you couldn’t tell the difference.
Originally Posted by Palmtree Pilot
Thanks for the info! So would the November hire be finished with initial training yet? Was also told Endeavor's initial was something like 70-90 days... Do they complete initial FO training through IOE or transition to upgrade somewhere before FO IOE? Sorry for all the questions, this just a whole new world from when I was flying the regionals, and I'm really contemplating returning to a US airline for more PIC time. Therefore, I'm really trying to get a better picture of how these "quick upgrades" are taking place.
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01-13-2018, 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by RJdriver89
Trip is over and I already tried to get them to add it as extra credit on top of the 25:00. They sent me an email trying to explain how credit was calculated like I was in 5th grade. Needless to say I know how credit above guarantee works and it seemed they did not understand I was trying to explain that I would have been paid the same regardless if I had flown the extra segments.
01-13-2018, 02:51 AM
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Is anyone else getting repeat phone calls from scheduling? The last few times they have called me to assign me flying I’ll get a call and not two minutes later someone else will call again and tell me the same info. Feels like the guys from super troopers are doing the repeater with me lol
01-13-2018, 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RJdriver89
Trip is over and I already tried to get them to add it as extra credit on top of the 25:00. They sent me an email trying to explain how credit was calculated like I was in 5th grade. Needless to say I know how credit above guarantee works and it seemed they did not understand I was trying to explain that I would have been paid the same regardless if I had flown the extra segments.
01-13-2018, 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by SEMIslave
I do a lot of 5 day trips and they like to change the schedule on you. Particularly when there is a 30 hr overnight. The 25hr of credit is a protection applied after the trip. So if the trip actually has less than 25 anything extra you do is free work until you crack 25 hrs of actual credit. Never answer your phone. Make them work at notifying you or listen to the voicemail and if you want it call them back.
01-13-2018, 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Palmtree Pilot
Thanks for the info! So would the November hire be finished with initial training yet? Was also told Endeavor's initial was something like 70-90 days... Do they complete initial FO training through IOE or transition to upgrade somewhere before FO IOE? Sorry for all the questions, this just a whole new world from when I was flying the regionals, and I'm really contemplating returning to a US airline for more PIC time. Therefore, I'm really trying to get a better picture of how these "quick upgrades" are taking place.
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