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Old 01-13-2018 | 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RJdriver89
Trip is over and I already tried to get them to add it as extra credit on top of the 25:00. They sent me an email trying to explain how credit was calculated like I was in 5th grade. Needless to say I know how credit above guarantee works and it seemed they did not understand I was trying to explain that I would have been paid the same regardless if I had flown the extra segments.
I do a lot of 5 day trips and they like to change the schedule on you. Particularly when there is a 30 hr overnight. The 25hr of credit is a protection applied after the trip. So if the trip actually has less than 25 anything extra you do is free work until you crack 25 hrs of actual credit. Never answer your phone. Make them work at notifying you or listen to the voicemail and if you want it call them back.
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Old 01-13-2018 | 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by SEMIslave
I do a lot of 5 day trips and they like to change the schedule on you. Particularly when there is a 30 hr overnight. The 25hr of credit is a protection applied after the trip. So if the trip actually has less than 25 anything extra you do is free work until you crack 25 hrs of actual credit. Never answer your phone. Make them work at notifying you or listen to the voicemail and if you want it call them back.
Lesson learned. I like helping when I can but not when it requires me to rush between gates and get looked at by a fully boarded aircraft like I was the one that made their flight delayed for no extra compensation. Little did they know I saved the day. Luckily my Captain made it known on his PA because he could sense the hostility filling the cabin.
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Old 01-13-2018 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Palmtree Pilot
Thanks for the info! So would the November hire be finished with initial training yet? Was also told Endeavor's initial was something like 70-90 days... Do they complete initial FO training through IOE or transition to upgrade somewhere before FO IOE? Sorry for all the questions, this just a whole new world from when I was flying the regionals, and I'm really contemplating returning to a US airline for more PIC time. Therefore, I'm really trying to get a better picture of how these "quick upgrades" are taking place.

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I am one of those guys in the November class that got an upgrade already. We just finished our PV and start sims next week. We had about 3 weeks off over the holidays due to sims being backed up. We are scheduled right now to finish training at the beginning of Feb. We would then do IOE as an FO in Feb and go to upgrade training in March. That is the way it is scheduled right now, obviously that is subject to change.
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Old 01-13-2018 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by KelvinHelmholtz
They need to hire more schedulers. I was on hold over 2 hours and couldn’t reach anyone. After an hour 45 someone picked up and said please hold. I would have stayed on the line but I had to fly
Same here. I got reassigned a deadhead but they never booked my seat. On hold for two hours as I watched my flight leave. Not cool guys. If we’re going to have IROPS ever other day we’ve got to have people who can pick up the phone in a reasonable amount of time.
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Old 01-13-2018 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Two Kings
Same here. I got reassigned a deadhead but they never booked my seat. On hold for two hours as I watched my flight leave. Not cool guys. If we’re going to have IROPS ever other day we’ve got to have people who can pick up the phone in a reasonable amount of time.
Exact same thing happened to me. Not sure what's going on over there -- must be a lot of turnover. Twice in the past week, I've called 'em out on assignments that were blatant 117 violations...they weren't even close, and the scheduler always acts so shocked to see that I am, in fact, correct.
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Old 01-13-2018 | 05:46 AM
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thinking of switching from another airline

Seat lock ?
How long to get ATL 900 ?
Forced upgrades ?

anything else you think a guy should consider ?

thanks
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Old 01-13-2018 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Two Kings
Same here. I got reassigned a deadhead but they never booked my seat. On hold for two hours as I watched my flight leave. Not cool guys. If we’re going to have IROPS ever other day we’ve got to have people who can pick up the phone in a reasonable amount of time.
The C tower is so disconnected from these events. The dude in charge of CS is living in an altered reality dream world. There is zero accountability. This will continue over and over. i am not sure how they get away with this complete meltdown every single IROP, stranding crews, hours on hold, etc....
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Old 01-13-2018 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JayBee
thinking of switching from another airline

Seat lock ?
How long to get ATL 900 ?
Forced upgrades ?

anything else you think a guy should consider ?

thanks
1. 18 months unless you upgrade
2. Forever( 200 different story)
3. no
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Old 01-13-2018 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by JayBee
thinking of switching from another airline

Seat lock ?
How long to get ATL 900 ?
Forced upgrades ?

anything else you think a guy should consider ?

thanks
18 month seat lock which I think they've been waiving, at least on the captain side. 2-3 vacancies which is like 4-7month range to get ATL 900. It is hard to put a target on it though since we aren't growing ATL as quickly as originally thought (ExpressJet will close ATL last as they slowly wind down delta flying). No forced upgrades.
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Old 01-13-2018 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by whoareyou311
1. 18 months unless you upgrade
2. Forever( 200 different story)
3. no
Junior 900 ATL FO is JUL 17. Junior 200 FO and CA are new hires. So 5 months for 900 ATL. Not forever.
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