Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
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Right on. For the life of me, I can't seem to understand why people still haven't grasped the concept that regional airlines are a nifty scam/racket created by mainline airlines back in the day for the sole purpose of lowering labor costs, which were the number one cost item for airlines before oil prices skyrocketed. The scam was purposely designed to take advantage of low time pilots and cabin crew who were lured into accepting crappy wages and an even crappier QOL with the understanding that they needed to make that sacrifice in order to move on to better remuneration & equipment once they did their time and "paid their dues".
As much as I despise the 750-1500 hr ATP rule that our honorable members of the circus called Congress enacted into law as it didn't really emphasize quality training as opposed to a random number of hours, I have to admit that it is finally starting to raise wages and rest periods, which was the other issue needed to be addressed following the Colgan crash.
The scam is up and I'm sure that regional airlines will eventually go away as they will be unable to recruit newbies who are willing to accept the horrendous ROI for their incurred training costs. Regional airlines may try to delay their demise by coming up with cadet schemes subsidized by their mainline partners, but in the end even that won't be enough to lure potential recruits. Mainlines might as well give it up now and accept the fact that they will have to start ponying up some of their record profits into assuring a steady pipeline of trained recruits and decent wages, just like successful airlines everywhere else around the world already do.
As much as I despise the 750-1500 hr ATP rule that our honorable members of the circus called Congress enacted into law as it didn't really emphasize quality training as opposed to a random number of hours, I have to admit that it is finally starting to raise wages and rest periods, which was the other issue needed to be addressed following the Colgan crash.
The scam is up and I'm sure that regional airlines will eventually go away as they will be unable to recruit newbies who are willing to accept the horrendous ROI for their incurred training costs. Regional airlines may try to delay their demise by coming up with cadet schemes subsidized by their mainline partners, but in the end even that won't be enough to lure potential recruits. Mainlines might as well give it up now and accept the fact that they will have to start ponying up some of their record profits into assuring a steady pipeline of trained recruits and decent wages, just like successful airlines everywhere else around the world already do.
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#3172
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Right on. For the life of me, I can't seem to understand why people still haven't grasped the concept that regional airlines are a nifty scam/racket created by mainline airlines back in the day for the sole purpose of lowering labor costs, which were the number one cost item for airlines before oil prices skyrocketed. The scam was purposely designed to take advantage of low time pilots and cabin crew who were lured into accepting crappy wages and an even crappier QOL with the understanding that they needed to make that sacrifice in order to move on to better remuneration & equipment once they did their time and "paid their dues".
As much as I despise the 750-1500 hr ATP rule that our honorable members of the circus called Congress enacted into law as it didn't really emphasize quality training as opposed to a random number of hours, I have to admit that it is finally starting to raise wages and rest periods, which was the other issue needed to be addressed following the Colgan crash.
The scam is up and I'm sure that regional airlines will eventually go away as they will be unable to recruit newbies who are unwilling to accept the horrendous ROI for their incurred training costs. Regional airlines may try to delay their demise by coming up with cadet schemes subsidized by their mainline partners, but in the end even that won't be enough to lure potential recruits. Mainlines might as well give it up now and accept the fact that they will have to start ponying up some of their record profits into assuring a steady pipeline of trained recruits and decent wages, just like successful airlines everywhere else around the world already do.
As much as I despise the 750-1500 hr ATP rule that our honorable members of the circus called Congress enacted into law as it didn't really emphasize quality training as opposed to a random number of hours, I have to admit that it is finally starting to raise wages and rest periods, which was the other issue needed to be addressed following the Colgan crash.
The scam is up and I'm sure that regional airlines will eventually go away as they will be unable to recruit newbies who are unwilling to accept the horrendous ROI for their incurred training costs. Regional airlines may try to delay their demise by coming up with cadet schemes subsidized by their mainline partners, but in the end even that won't be enough to lure potential recruits. Mainlines might as well give it up now and accept the fact that they will have to start ponying up some of their record profits into assuring a steady pipeline of trained recruits and decent wages, just like successful airlines everywhere else around the world already do.
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Is there a good resource for researching / comparing crashpads at JFK vs. DTW?
What is the $ range for own bed (NO hot rack please) at JFK vs. DTW?
What about own room?
If anyone has commuted to both for reserve, do you find it costing much more to "live" in JFK vs. DTW, during your days on?
What is the $ range for own bed (NO hot rack please) at JFK vs. DTW?
What about own room?
If anyone has commuted to both for reserve, do you find it costing much more to "live" in JFK vs. DTW, during your days on?
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Is there a good resource for researching / comparing crashpads at JFK vs. DTW?
What is the $ range for own bed (NO hot rack please) at JFK vs. DTW?
What about own room?
If anyone has commuted to both for reserve, do you find it costing much more to "live" in JFK vs. DTW, during your days on?
What is the $ range for own bed (NO hot rack please) at JFK vs. DTW?
What about own room?
If anyone has commuted to both for reserve, do you find it costing much more to "live" in JFK vs. DTW, during your days on?
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#3178
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Most of our West Coast guys chose NYC thought for an easier commute/more frequency.
Realistic pay first year all in with perdiem at 85-90 hours is 60k.
#3179
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Ok FYI everybody, word around the schoolhouse and at standards meeting is that manual currency is becoming an issue. I'm sure nobody needs to explain the importance of keeping manuals up to date, but...
If you're coming to a training event, especially upgrade, run through the LEP for the CFM and FOM to make sure you have the right stuff in there. Apparently there have been issues with revisions missing pages or being printed incorrectly. Go through it with a fine tooth comb. If you're missing something, contact your base manager to get it. Won't be a big deal, but might take some time so plan ahead.
OE IS a training event so you are required to carry BOTH manuals for OE, not just the one you would normal carry for your seat.
I would not be surprised to see more random checks and audits so do yourself a favor and check your stuff.
If you're coming to a training event, especially upgrade, run through the LEP for the CFM and FOM to make sure you have the right stuff in there. Apparently there have been issues with revisions missing pages or being printed incorrectly. Go through it with a fine tooth comb. If you're missing something, contact your base manager to get it. Won't be a big deal, but might take some time so plan ahead.
OE IS a training event so you are required to carry BOTH manuals for OE, not just the one you would normal carry for your seat.
I would not be surprised to see more random checks and audits so do yourself a favor and check your stuff.
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