Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
06-19-2017 | 05:14 PM
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With regard to current negotiations, we should be focused on long-term pay and stability, rather than a converted pay rate that will only provide very short term gains. Our counterparts at the AA wholly owned carriers arguably have a much stronger package and a clear defined path to a career at mainline.
This negotiation is the most crucial in recent history, not only to get back what we lost in Bankruptcy, but to solidify a future for our pilots at mainline. It is time to band together as a pilot group and be heard clearly by management and our union. This is THE TIME to attain flow and we are closer than ever at doing so. We have worked very hard at taking care of our customers, providing solid performance metrics and holding ourselves to a high professional standard.
Introducing the lanyard... this lanyard is a statement to our company and union that expresses our bottom line as a group. Simply, No flow=vote no. Remember, all of us have a job at AA in 5-7 years.
To get a lanyard, send an email to [email protected] and include your base in the subject line. A donation is appreciated but not mandatory.
This negotiation is the most crucial in recent history, not only to get back what we lost in Bankruptcy, but to solidify a future for our pilots at mainline. It is time to band together as a pilot group and be heard clearly by management and our union. This is THE TIME to attain flow and we are closer than ever at doing so. We have worked very hard at taking care of our customers, providing solid performance metrics and holding ourselves to a high professional standard.
Introducing the lanyard... this lanyard is a statement to our company and union that expresses our bottom line as a group. Simply, No flow=vote no. Remember, all of us have a job at AA in 5-7 years.
To get a lanyard, send an email to [email protected] and include your base in the subject line. A donation is appreciated but not mandatory.
We have a very slim chance of negotiating a DAL flow.
Delta pilots don't want us to have one.
Delta mgt doesn't want us to have one.
Delta would Comair us before they would let us dictate
to them a flow. Though that might be your motive???
06-19-2017 | 06:44 PM
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Cant wait to see which tools wear this. Go get a college degree and get yourself a mainline job. I fly with dudes that have way to many excuses of why they are still here. I've been here along enough to know a handful of great people got turned down at Delta especially the first group to interview. The rest of you have nothing but excuses. I ask guys all the time have you gone to a career fair? Well no.... , you want to work at United? Oh when's the last time you updated your app? Oh well last year. The only obstacle in life is yourself. This flow thing is a joke. It's Delta Air Lines.
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06-19-2017 | 07:44 PM
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Cant wait to see which tools wear this. Go get a college degree and get yourself a mainline job. I fly with dudes that have way to many excuses of why they are still here. I've been here along enough to know a handful of great people got turned down at Delta especially the first group to interview. The rest of you have nothing but excuses. I ask guys all the time have you gone to a career fair? Well no.... , you want to work at United? Oh when's the last time you updated your app? Oh well last year. The only obstacle in life is yourself. This flow thing is a joke. It's Delta Air Lines.
American pays more, their bases are better, they fly bigger airplanes, and you don't have to wear a hat.
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06-19-2017 | 07:51 PM
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They don't pay more when comparing W2s and all their rates aren't the highest out there despite a free raise. Bases are subjective at best and each person will have their own opinion on that. Bigger airplanes aren't for everyone. For God's sake, leave the hat out of the equation. That means nothing in the long run. I don't care if that's TIC. Too many people seem to actually include that in their calculus.
06-19-2017 | 08:34 PM
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I think that's wishful thinking.
We have a very slim chance of negotiating a DAL flow.
Delta pilots don't want us to have one.
Delta mgt doesn't want us to have one.
Delta would Comair us before they would let us dictate
to them a flow. Though that might be your motive???
We have a very slim chance of negotiating a DAL flow.
Delta pilots don't want us to have one.
Delta mgt doesn't want us to have one.
Delta would Comair us before they would let us dictate
to them a flow. Though that might be your motive???
I'm not saying rollover and take it up the a@! but its certainly not a "do or die" negotiation. We've got one of the best contracts in the regional game right now. Attempting to draw some sort of line in the sand by wearing these clown lanyards is foolish at best.
06-20-2017 | 03:24 AM
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There is no mercy, no favorites, no consideratio, and NO feelings of respect or admiration from Delta ATL to Endeavor.
They couldn't care less about our wants or needs. To them, WE ARE A COST WHICH MUST BE CONTROLLED. BAR NONE.
So to think that Delta will warm up to a flow because we perform well or we wear green lanyards demanding a flow is just insane. Delta wants Endeavor to stay in their lane and act like a contractor because that's all we are to them. They don't care about us and they never will. Sadly this is the reality guys.
Now does that mean they are a bad company? No absolutely not. They look out for their own and we are anything but that. Regardless of the kumbyah in MSP.
What you should all be worried about is the future of this airline which has NO flying contracted thru 2020. Go chew on that one and stop worrying about a flow.
They couldn't care less about our wants or needs. To them, WE ARE A COST WHICH MUST BE CONTROLLED. BAR NONE.
So to think that Delta will warm up to a flow because we perform well or we wear green lanyards demanding a flow is just insane. Delta wants Endeavor to stay in their lane and act like a contractor because that's all we are to them. They don't care about us and they never will. Sadly this is the reality guys.
Now does that mean they are a bad company? No absolutely not. They look out for their own and we are anything but that. Regardless of the kumbyah in MSP.
What you should all be worried about is the future of this airline which has NO flying contracted thru 2020. Go chew on that one and stop worrying about a flow.
06-20-2017 | 05:11 AM
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Cant wait to see which tools wear this. Go get a college degree and get yourself a mainline job. I fly with dudes that have way to many excuses of why they are still here. I've been here along enough to know a handful of great people got turned down at Delta especially the first group to interview. The rest of you have nothing but excuses. I ask guys all the time have you gone to a career fair? Well no.... , you want to work at United? Oh when's the last time you updated your app? Oh well last year. The only obstacle in life is yourself. This flow thing is a joke. It's Delta Air Lines.
06-20-2017 | 05:32 AM
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That's funny that some think it's up to the union or 9e mgt weather we get a flow or not. And if you do understand that it's only daddy D that has a say, go wear that lanyard proud in ATL next time you're there. Maybe you can change their mind.
06-20-2017 | 05:51 AM
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There is no mercy, no favorites, no consideratio, and NO feelings of respect or admiration from Delta ATL to Endeavor.
They couldn't care less about our wants or needs. To them, WE ARE A COST WHICH MUST BE CONTROLLED. BAR NONE.
So to think that Delta will warm up to a flow because we perform well or we wear green lanyards demanding a flow is just insane. Delta wants Endeavor to stay in their lane and act like a contractor because that's all we are to them. They don't care about us and they never will. Sadly this is the reality guys.
Now does that mean they are a bad company? No absolutely not. They look out for their own and we are anything but that. Regardless of the kumbyah in MSP.
What you should all be worried about is the future of this airline which has NO flying contracted thru 2020. Go chew on that one and stop worrying about a flow.
They couldn't care less about our wants or needs. To them, WE ARE A COST WHICH MUST BE CONTROLLED. BAR NONE.
So to think that Delta will warm up to a flow because we perform well or we wear green lanyards demanding a flow is just insane. Delta wants Endeavor to stay in their lane and act like a contractor because that's all we are to them. They don't care about us and they never will. Sadly this is the reality guys.
Now does that mean they are a bad company? No absolutely not. They look out for their own and we are anything but that. Regardless of the kumbyah in MSP.
What you should all be worried about is the future of this airline which has NO flying contracted thru 2020. Go chew on that one and stop worrying about a flow.
They do want us to succeed however they control a flow and
everything else
not us.
So what if our contract has an expiration date? Don't all?
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