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Old 09-14-2018 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
We can still select C+ within 24 hours of departure. The "glitch" allowed us to select those seats prior to that.

Right so this memo is saying that’s not allowed, even within 24 hours, any more for DCI, correct?
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Old 09-14-2018 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotMechanic
Yes both Delta and DCI. Just main cabin.
WTF this place keeps getting worst by the minute, what’s next....????

It’s why there is a upgrade list, which always had us at the lowest upgrade priority, if paying customers were listed on the upgrade list, we wouldn’t get the upgrade anyways!!!

Our leadership constantly thanks us for everything we do, for being the “GOLD STND” this must be a direct result of the appreciation of our efforts!

Great job making the work environment worst every day, I be sure to bid not to DH, at the end of the day DH is for helping the company...

Thanks!

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Old 09-14-2018 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by GuardPolice
Maybe you should familiarize yourself with mainline contractual DH policy before looking like an idiot.

Our contract requires certain DHs be in Business class or better. Never mind the fact that IT has gone through great lengths in the last year to give mainline pilots the ability to upgrade ourselves through Delta.com to Comfort within 24 hours of departure AND put ourselves on the FC and Comfort upgrade lists.

Is it lost on you that this is most likely the case of a 9E employee spouting off on something they know nothing about? You really think a 9E memo dictates mainline DH policy or that this memo is the absolute gospel (meaning accurate) on the subject? That’s laughable.

Read the memo carefully before spouting off. It says the glitch has been fixed for DCI crews while stating it was prior mainline policy. I’ve shown that’s not true, therefore, the memo is not correct about the mainline policy.
From the memo: “The ability to stand by or select seats in these cabins is contrary to Delta’s deadhead travel policy, which requires all Delta and Delta Connection crews to sit in the main cabin while traveling as deadhead crew members.”

Clearly says Delta and Delta Connection. Now I understand that memo means nothing to you and that’s fine. But the only flights you are entitled to the upgrade are ocean crossings and flights to/from NRT/HND that are more than 5:15 block. Everything else is main cabin. Looks to me like you could get stuck with this too for the majority of deadheads.
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Old 09-14-2018 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SEMIslave
From the memo: “The ability to stand by or select seats in these cabins is contrary to Delta’s deadhead travel policy, which requires all Delta and Delta Connection crews to sit in the main cabin while traveling as deadhead crew members.”



Clearly says Delta and Delta Connection. Now I understand that memo means nothing to you and that’s fine. But the only flights you are entitled to the upgrade are ocean crossings and flights to/from NRT/HND that are more than 5:15 block. Everything else is main cabin. Looks to me like you could get stuck with this too for the majority of deadheads.

From the memo:

“The IT issue has since been corrected and Delta Connection crews will no longer have access to select or standby for seats in the Premium Cabin.”

That doesn’t say the fix applies to mainline.

As for our DH language in those situations you mention, we must be booked into Business class or better. There’s no upgrading involved.

Yes, the rest are booked into the Main Cabin but we still can upgrade ourselves as I’ve already pointed out. Nothing has changed for us.

To those taking cheap shots at me, this isn’t a mainline vs DCI debate. If certain peeps can’t respect facts being added to the conversation then that’s unfortunate. Point the anger at your managers, not other pilots that had nothing to do with this. I guess that’s what I get for stepping into the conversation.
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Old 09-14-2018 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by GuardPolice
Right so this memo is saying that’s not allowed, even within 24 hours, any more for DCI, correct?
I think the issue was they didn't want crew showing up on the standby list, so customers could see. We can still select C+ if it's open, or if the gate agent puts us there.(at the time of this post) We also still have contract language for FC on some long flights as well.
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Old 09-14-2018 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
I think the issue was they didn't want crew showing up on the standby list, so customers could see. We can still select C+ if it's open, or if the gate agent puts us there.(at the time of this post) We also still have contract language for FC on some long flights as well.

The memo is saying the ability to even select premium seats is going away. Or am I not reading it right?
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Old 09-14-2018 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by GuardPolice
The memo is saying the ability to even select premium seats is going away. Or am I not reading it right?
No, you're reading it right. We had the ability to select/standby on those seats prior to even you guys.
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Old 09-14-2018 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
No, you're reading it right. We had the ability to select/standby on those seats prior to even you guys.
So going forward... I’ll still be able to select comfort plus but I just can’t request fc?
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Old 09-14-2018 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
I think the issue was they didn't want crew showing up on the standby list, so customers could see. We can still select C+ if it's open, or if the gate agent puts us there.(at the time of this post) We also still have contract language for FC on some long flights as well.
I had one yesterday. 19 comfort open. Couldn’t select any of them upon check in and couldn’t request upgrade. Had to sit in main cabin. The memo seems to indicate we will not be able to get comfort or first under any circumstance on a pos space deadhead flight.
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Old 09-14-2018 | 08:58 AM
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Any ideas why United was pulled from myidtravel? Their page now says must list at gate?
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