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Old 09-16-2019, 10:35 AM   #22391  
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When I took the job, I specifically asked if you could drop reserve. "No problem", they said, "but you won't get paid for it", they said.

Then I try to drop reserve, "Oh the grid has to be GREEN", they said!

"What freaking GRID", I said....

"The one that is never GREEN!", they said and then they laughed and laughed and laughed!
Idk. I dropped 5 days last month, and picked up a couple OT things. It is very sparse these days though. All the days I dropped were red when I dropped them. They have that super secret squirrel grid they use for reserve drops that's lower than what the grid shows. Remember people, the grid in Flica shows what line holders need in order to drop. Reserves can drop with a slightly lower threshold that unfortunately we can't see. So you just have to shoot and see what happens.
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Anyone going to the MSP cage Marshall prep?
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Old 09-16-2019, 06:25 PM   #22393  
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Idk. I dropped 5 days last month, and picked up a couple OT things. It is very sparse these days though. All the days I dropped were red when I dropped them. They have that super secret squirrel grid they use for reserve drops that's lower than what the grid shows. Remember people, the grid in Flica shows what line holders need in order to drop. Reserves can drop with a slightly lower threshold that unfortunately we can't see. So you just have to shoot and see what happens.
Yea, so much for the transparency we were supposed to have had years ago already
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Yea, so much for the transparency we were supposed to have had years ago already
Oh, completely agree. That's one of the worst things here. Though my friends at PSA say it's not much better there. I've heard similar at RAH and Envoy. But either way. It sucks. Not transparent at all.
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Idk. I dropped 5 days last month, and picked up a couple OT things. It is very sparse these days though. All the days I dropped were red when I dropped them. They have that super secret squirrel grid they use for reserve drops that's lower than what the grid shows. Remember people, the grid in Flica shows what line holders need in order to drop. Reserves can drop with a slightly lower threshold that unfortunately we can't see. So you just have to shoot and see what happens.
So a disclaimer first. This post is only my opinion and may be subject to much scrutiny. But... I think Iíve cracked the reserve grid code. Iím pretty sure after much trial and error that schedulings actual hard numbers are half the required for that day. I.e. 34 reserves required actually means 17 minimum. If the grid shows 18 or higher you can drop or swap. At least thats been my experience. Now that Iíve posted this it may change. Lol.
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So a disclaimer first. This post is only my opinion and may be subject to much scrutiny. But... I think I’ve cracked the reserve grid code. I’m pretty sure after much trial and error that schedulings actual hard numbers are half the required for that day. I.e. 34 reserves required actually means 17 minimum. If the grid shows 18 or higher you can drop or swap. At least thats been my experience. Now that I’ve posted this it may change. Lol.
I miss Mesaba, only once in 6 years of trading around reserve days did I get denied (and after a phone call it was approved) I never had an issue rebuilding my schedule. Outside of the costs of faxes if I didn't want to bother going to the airport to make any shifts/trades. This is like the whole line bid vs. PBS... sounds great until the reality is half as good.
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So a disclaimer first. This post is only my opinion and may be subject to much scrutiny. But... I think Iíve cracked the reserve grid code. Iím pretty sure after much trial and error that schedulings actual hard numbers are half the required for that day. I.e. 34 reserves required actually means 17 minimum. If the grid shows 18 or higher you can drop or swap. At least thats been my experience. Now that Iíve posted this it may change. Lol.
Interesting. I'd be surprised if it was that low, but it certainly is less than posted required numbers. I'll have to try this out
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Is that the grid was red even during TOWOP! I thought that was shady! And yes, I agree on the transparency. PBS/Flica is a tool for flight crews so whatís the point in having it if you canít use it? Why do they have a different grid than us and how did THAT happen? Did Alpa agree to let them do that because if not, thatís a huge grievance IMHO.

I think we are all going to be working a lot harder. The pairings seem to be getting worse and the fire breaks are terrible. More people are flying longer days and fatigue is or will become an issue. While I know growth is desired but, at what cost???

Yes, I know we got 150% open time in return for giving up the grid. Iím honestly torn about that. Itís difficult to get the 150% trips because you canít drop OR swap. Quite frankly, Iíd like to keep my only days off I can get now.
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Yes, I know we got 150% open time in return for giving up the grid. Iím honestly torn about that. Itís difficult to get the 150% trips because you canít drop OR swap. Quite frankly, Iíd like to keep my only days off I can get now.
I've asked the MEC about this. The company line is that they don't want to relinquish control of the grid because they rely upon it for operational integrity. Gaining control of the reserve grid would go far beyond just giving up 150% on open time. We didn't go into specifics, but the MEC believes we'd have to give up way too much in order to control the grid.
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Is that the grid was red even during TOWOP! I thought that was shady! And yes, I agree on the transparency. PBS/Flica is a tool for flight crews so whatís the point in having it if you canít use it? Why do they have a different grid than us and how did THAT happen? Did Alpa agree to let them do that because if not, thatís a huge grievance IMHO.

I think we are all going to be working a lot harder. The pairings seem to be getting worse and the fire breaks are terrible. More people are flying longer days and fatigue is or will become an issue. While I know growth is desired but, at what cost???

Yes, I know we got 150% open time in return for giving up the grid. Iím honestly torn about that. Itís difficult to get the 150% trips because you canít drop OR swap. Quite frankly, Iíd like to keep my only days off I can get now.
Reserve adds and swaps and drops had already been at ďschedulingís discretion,Ē thatís why when the company implemented the secret reserve grid, it wasnít an LOA but rather an email from TW and the union announcing the change. The cost of trips being dropped by lineholders and picked up for premium time was cited by TW as a reason we donít have true numbers on the flica reserve grid. The goal was for reserves to drop trips and pick up open time from the trade board.
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