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Old 03-28-2020, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah View Post
Everyone probably. The issue is that WideBody flying is not coming back for a long time. Domestic should recover once a vaccine is available. Regionals will be required to hold market share until demand returns for mainline aircraft, or mainline takes our airplanes, and mainline flies the 76 seaters.
They wonít get rid of us . They certainly are not going to pay a mainline guy 170 dollars an hour to fly the RJ 7/9ís , which is what their pay rate would be . Now granted ,thatís what we should make , LOL . But I think you are correct that out of the ashes of this thing that The name ďEndeavorĒ and the operating certificate will be gone and it , along with us, will just fold into mainline and Delta will part ways with skyPest and Republic unfortunately will probably not survive this. There were 1400 retirements scheduled for 2020/21 and I think many more guys will early retire , especially if they offer early buy outs. So they can easily fold 1800 Endeavor pilots into the mix and just make the smallest mainline the 7ís/9ís and find some kind of middle ground on pay rates and then if itís all mainline there is no more scope clause and they could get 90 seaters as well . So hang in there everyone . My personal opinion is we will all come out better off .or I could be wrong and we will all be flying rubber dog **** out of Hong Kong on a Convair 540.
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Old 03-29-2020, 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by overqualified52 View Post
They wonít get rid of us . They certainly are not going to pay a mainline guy 170 dollars an hour to fly the RJ 7/9ís , which is what their pay rate would be . Now granted ,thatís what we should make , LOL . But I think you are correct that out of the ashes of this thing that The name ďEndeavorĒ and the operating certificate will be gone and it , along with us, will just fold into mainline and Delta will part ways with skyPest and Republic unfortunately will probably not survive this. There were 1400 retirements scheduled for 2020/21 and I think many more guys will early retire , especially if they offer early buy outs. So they can easily fold 1800 Endeavor pilots into the mix and just make the smallest mainline the 7ís/9ís and find some kind of middle ground on pay rates and then if itís all mainline there is no more scope clause and they could get 90 seaters as well . So hang in there everyone . My personal opinion is we will all come out better off .or I could be wrong and we will all be flying rubber dog **** out of Hong Kong on a Convair 540.
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Old 03-29-2020, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by overqualified52 View Post
They wonít get rid of us . They certainly are not going to pay a mainline guy 170 dollars an hour to fly the RJ 7/9ís , which is what their pay rate would be . Now granted ,thatís what we should make , LOL . But I think you are correct that out of the ashes of this thing that The name ďEndeavorĒ and the operating certificate will be gone and it , along with us, will just fold into mainline and Delta will part ways with skyPest and Republic unfortunately will probably not survive this. There were 1400 retirements scheduled for 2020/21 and I think many more guys will early retire , especially if they offer early buy outs. So they can easily fold 1800 Endeavor pilots into the mix and just make the smallest mainline the 7ís/9ís and find some kind of middle ground on pay rates and then if itís all mainline there is no more scope clause and they could get 90 seaters as well . So hang in there everyone . My personal opinion is we will all come out better off .or I could be wrong and we will all be flying rubber dog **** out of Hong Kong on a Convair 540.
79 seat RJs can be configured for more seats. Since delta owns them they can do what they like.
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Old 03-29-2020, 08:13 AM
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Anyone else have their Sim events canceled in April. My recurrent Loe next week has been pulled? No word from anyone about it.
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Old 03-29-2020, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by overqualified52 View Post
They wonít get rid of us . They certainly are not going to pay a mainline guy 170 dollars an hour to fly the RJ 7/9ís , which is what their pay rate would be . Now granted ,thatís what we should make , LOL . But I think you are correct that out of the ashes of this thing that The name ďEndeavorĒ and the operating certificate will be gone and it , along with us, will just fold into mainline and Delta will part ways with skyPest and Republic unfortunately will probably not survive this. There were 1400 retirements scheduled for 2020/21 and I think many more guys will early retire , especially if they offer early buy outs. So they can easily fold 1800 Endeavor pilots into the mix and just make the smallest mainline the 7ís/9ís and find some kind of middle ground on pay rates and then if itís all mainline there is no more scope clause and they could get 90 seaters as well . So hang in there everyone . My personal opinion is we will all come out better off .or I could be wrong and we will all be flying rubber dog **** out of Hong Kong on a Convair 540.
This is what I was thinking. Makes a lot of sense to me. Letís hope your right.
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Old 03-29-2020, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Kforekyle View Post
This is what I was thinking. Makes a lot of sense to me. Letís hope your right.
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Old 03-29-2020, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Kforekyle View Post
This is what I was thinking. Makes a lot of sense to me. Letís hope your right.
His post makes absolutely no sense and is just nonsense, like everything else he posts.
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Old 03-29-2020, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by overqualified52 View Post
They wonít get rid of us . They certainly are not going to pay a mainline guy 170 dollars an hour to fly the RJ 7/9ís , which is what their pay rate would be . Now granted ,thatís what we should make , LOL . But I think you are correct that out of the ashes of this thing that The name ďEndeavorĒ and the operating certificate will be gone and it , along with us, will just fold into mainline and Delta will part ways with skyPest and Republic unfortunately will probably not survive this. There were 1400 retirements scheduled for 2020/21 and I think many more guys will early retire , especially if they offer early buy outs. So they can easily fold 1800 Endeavor pilots into the mix and just make the smallest mainline the 7ís/9ís and find some kind of middle ground on pay rates and then if itís all mainline there is no more scope clause and they could get 90 seaters as well . So hang in there everyone . My personal opinion is we will all come out better off .or I could be wrong and we will all be flying rubber dog **** out of Hong Kong on a Convair 540.
Retirements have now become irrelevant. With the capacity reductions and statements saying that they will be a smaller airline in the future retirements just became a non issue for at least a few years. In a time in which saving money is the most important thing, they are not going to take a cheaper pilot group and make them more expensive. Also SkyWest and Republic both have multi year CPAs, they arenít going anywhere for awhile.
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Old 03-29-2020, 05:53 PM
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Retirements have now become irrelevant. With the capacity reductions and statements saying that they will be a smaller airline in the future retirements just became a non issue for at least a few years. In a time in which saving money is the most important thing, they are not going to take a cheaper pilot group and make them more expensive. Also SkyWest and Republic both have multi year CPAs, they arenít going anywhere for awhile.
The multi year CPAís in regards to Skywest and Republic are mentioned a lot. I donít think think they are iron clad in situations like these? Why would Delta or whoever be required to keep paying them when theyíre bleeding cash? Maybe Iím misinterpreting you, in that youíre talking about the whole company, and not reductions? I donít know. Iíve never seen these contracts. H$!! I probably wouldnít understand them anyway
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Old 03-29-2020, 06:27 PM
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Correct me if Iím wrong, but wouldnít bringing Endeavor in house remove the passenger ratio restriction that is in Deltaís contract. Allowing them in the near future to fill up the smaller aircraft with Delta pax that would normally be flown by the larger a/c. Seams like that could be a quick fix for now.
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