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Old 03-28-2020 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
The bailout money probably won't be enough. Chapter 11 is probably coming early next year.
If Delta goes into Chapter 11, the other legacies will have to follow to keep their cost structures competitive.
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Old 03-28-2020 | 02:09 PM
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CH11 for who? Delta?
And likely several other airlines.
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Old 03-28-2020 | 02:14 PM
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CH11 for who? Delta?
Everyone probably. The issue is that WideBody flying is not coming back for a long time. Domestic should recover once a vaccine is available. Regionals will be required to hold market share until demand returns for mainline aircraft, or mainline takes our airplanes, and mainline flies the 76 seaters.
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Old 03-28-2020 | 03:46 PM
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So if you get AVL all month in your base, but you don’t actually live in-base... someone actually expects you to commute back and forth every day? That’s just ready reserve for lineholders. How is THAT okay?
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Old 03-28-2020 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by IAFDOF
So if you get AVL all month in your base, but you don’t actually live in-base... someone actually expects you to commute back and forth every day? That’s just ready reserve for lineholders. How is THAT okay?
They have to put you in a hotel for each night in the middle of your pairing. You aren't required to stay in the airport for that whole time, and you don't have to go to the airport each day if you don't get a flight assignment.
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Old 03-28-2020 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by IAFDOF
So if you get AVL all month in your base, but you don’t actually live in-base... someone actually expects you to commute back and forth every day? That’s just ready reserve for lineholders. How is THAT okay?
You get a hotel. The company is going to quickly figure out how much of a waste of money all these in-base hotels are. Unfortunately it’s too late to rebid with our 70% schedule reduction.

I expect long call reserve to go very senior next month.
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Old 03-28-2020 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ninerdriver
They have to put you in a hotel for each night in the middle of your pairing. You aren't required to stay in the airport for that whole time, and you don't have to go to the airport each day if you don't get a flight assignment.
Oh joy, I’ve always wanted to live in an airport hotel!

What a joke, btw. The company balks at SIL’s or anything that might balance cost savings and QOL, but they’re gonna pay to put me in a hotel with per diem all month while I fly 11 block hours.

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Old 03-28-2020 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by IAFDOF
Oh joy, I’ve always wanted to live in an airport hotel!
Isn't that what you do every trip?
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Old 03-28-2020 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
Isn't that what you do every trip?
Of course not. I fly all day, sleep in the hotel, then leave to fly again. Weeks and weeks of AVL in a hotel is literally living 24 hours, days at a time in a hotel room. That’s a completely different experience.
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Old 03-28-2020 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by IAFDOF
Of course not. I fly all day, sleep in the hotel, then leave to fly again. Weeks and weeks of AVL in a hotel is literally living 24 hours, days at a time in a hotel room. That’s a completely different experience.
There are people in hospitals and others in the morgue and you’re complaining about a hotel? Grow up
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