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Old 05-15-2020 | 12:46 PM
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[QUOTE=Woger Wabbit;3056672]
Originally Posted by flyguy727
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Even if that article were true, “overstaffed by 7000 pilots” doesn’t mean you lay-off 7000 pilots. Especially in this uncertain climate. How many training events is that? How much $ is that? What if things pick up sooner than expected? Now you’re way behind the curve to bring people back, which adds even more training. Unless they plan on keeping that group furloughed for more than a year (maybe longer), it may be cheaper to pay reduced lines and not incur the extra shuffling costs.

Truth is, nobody knows what’s gonna happen until we see load capacities in the fall.
Not to mention it also said in the Fall. Last time I checked it’s still May. Hope the loads start increasing.
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Old 05-15-2020 | 01:08 PM
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Yes the memo yesterday said they would be overstaffed by 7k but if you read the entire memo they have to plan ahead and are looking at 3rd quarter 2021 needs. Hence with their projections 2500 to 3500 furloughs. This could change very easily. Also they did not state if we are built into that equation.

Our email said we will know more in June. My guess is everyone under Delta umbrella will see a 20 to 30% reduction furlough. That also assumes this winter the virus doesn't get worse.

I hope things bounce back a little quicker. Along for the ride just like last time. Sit back enjoy a beer and this will pass.
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Old 05-15-2020 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWhite
Yes the memo yesterday said they would be overstaffed by 7k but if you read the entire memo they have to plan ahead and are looking at 3rd quarter 2021 needs. Hence with their projections 2500 to 3500 furloughs. This could change very easily. Also they did not state if we are built into that equation.

Our email said we will know more in June. My guess is everyone under Delta umbrella will see a 20 to 30% reduction furlough. That also assumes this winter the virus doesn't get worse.

I hope things bounce back a little quicker. Along for the ride just like last time. Sit back enjoy a beer and this will pass.
Agreed. Doubt it’ll go past 20 percent furlough at EDV tho. Cheap labor in cheap airplanes is what you need right now, why would you wanna cut that? Unless it’s scope issues, otherwise it doesn’t make much cents (pun intended).
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Old 05-15-2020 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Woger Wabbit
Agreed. Doubt it’ll go past 20 percent furlough at EDV tho. Cheap labor in cheap airplanes is what you need right now, why would you wanna cut that? Unless it’s scope issues, otherwise it doesn’t make much cents (pun intended).
I think a 20-30% reduction could potentially be mitigated by offering long term leaves. In other words, we may only see 10-20% mandatory furloughs. These leaves may be more enticing, depending on what happens with the CARES act and if it gets extended past July. $800+ a week to sit at home? Why not.
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Old 05-15-2020 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rayjay
I think a 20-30% reduction could potentially be mitigated by offering long term leaves. In other words, we may only see 10-20% mandatory furloughs. These leaves may be more enticing, depending on what happens with the CARES act and if it gets extended past July. $800+ a week to sit at home? Why not.
sounds like your xanax is kicking in. No end of days predictions? Bashing newer FOs that the world is getting furloughed?
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Old 05-15-2020 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Sperrysan
sounds like your xanax is kicking in. No end of days predictions? Bashing newer FOs that the world is getting furloughed?
I went for a walk in the park today. I just finished dinner and sat down with a glass of wine, and began to ponder the situation more in-depth. For those at the bottom 10-20%, I'd consider taking a long term leave should you find another flying opportunity that suits you.
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Old 05-15-2020 | 03:54 PM
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Expressjet just announced 380 downgrades or 55% of the CA's. Sigh.
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Old 05-15-2020 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Rayjay
Expressjet just announced 380 downgrades or 55% of the CA's. Sigh.
So we can get positive space to and from work now? Nice work ALPA if true....

good news Debbie Downer
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Old 05-15-2020 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumyum
So we can get positive space to and from work now? Nice work ALPA if true....

good news Debbie Downer
Haha, I'm gonna refrain from commenting on the PS. See, I'm making process.
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Old 05-15-2020 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Rayjay
Haha, I'm gonna refrain from commenting on the PS. See, I'm making process.
Good job. I know it’s easy to be negative lately.
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