Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
08-29-2022 | 05:03 PM
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I agree with you . I would imagine that Skywest, Republic and the likes would have to start charging Delta more for the flying they do to pay for those significant pay raises . I think it would serve Delta better to increase our rates or absorb us . The Delta pilots are also a Force to be reckoned with as they want the regional flying brought in house as much as possible . So I’m not in the belief they are gonna dole out more flying to these other regionals . Once again how is Skywest, Mesa and possibly Republic going to pay for these significant pay raises ? I’m assuming by charging their Major partner more .
08-29-2022 | 05:33 PM
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My argument on that is if we are lowest paid and have best performance why would Delta transfer the flying to them? Our union isn’t demanding anything or causing problems for Delta Management.. I agree in this industry anything can happen But the sky is Not falling here.. I wouldn’t want to be at any regional in 2022 that isn’t owned by the major… Air Wisconsin just lost their contract.. Don’t listen to the Sky’s Falling people on here, they want you to leave to show attrition numbers and created Demand.. I do agree if you have a chance to go to a LCC or better that would be worth the risk but to another regional? No way!!! I also don’t think we’ll be getting pay raises like Mesa and American sub… It’s temporary… I’d rather work on something better than our current Flow…
I agree with you . I would imagine that Skywest, Republic and the likes would have to start charging Delta more for the flying they do to pay for those significant pay raises . I think it would serve Delta better to increase our rates or absorb us . The Delta pilots are also a Force to be reckoned with as they want the regional flying brought in house as much as possible . So I’m not in the belief they are gonna dole out more flying to these other regionals . Once again how is Skywest, Mesa and possibly Republic going to pay for these significant pay raises ? I’m assuming by charging their Major partner more .
The one thing the AA WOs have is you get top of scale (213) if you don’t flow in 5 years. So the pay is better now, but not the bases.
But then I want to join the training department sooner than later, and it’s much easier to commute to MSP for that vs like DFW.
08-29-2022 | 11:27 PM
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Thanks for the information!! I’m looking at Endeavor primarily because I live in the DTW base. The other AA WOs don’t have a base near me though one has a base that wouldn’t be a hard commute. With the bonus, as a DEC, I wouldn’t take a pay cut for two years. If I were to flow in two years that be perfect but the word “eligible” in all the advertisements isn’t lost on me. I haven’t heard much good about flows at any airline. that would be the best scenario though.
The one thing the AA WOs have is you get top of scale (213) if you don’t flow in 5 years. So the pay is better now, but not the bases.
But then I want to join the training department sooner than later, and it’s much easier to commute to MSP for that vs like DFW.
The one thing the AA WOs have is you get top of scale (213) if you don’t flow in 5 years. So the pay is better now, but not the bases.
But then I want to join the training department sooner than later, and it’s much easier to commute to MSP for that vs like DFW.
08-30-2022 | 01:55 AM
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09-02-2022 | 03:37 PM
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Anyone who is considering applying here, I hope you understand the reality of going to an airline that is openly shrinking with no plan to address staffing issues and no desire to revisit pay or other area of the contract. The hospitality suites are gone (not that we used them anyway), Delta career progression outside of flow is gone, positive space commuting will be gone in less than two months, our "industry-leading" contract is gone.
Management has given clear indication through their words and actions Delta will shrink us and is no longer committing resources to keeping us competitive. Think carefully before applying here, all the reasons to come are gone unless you really want to fly a CRJ with lots of yellow stickers in NYC for subpar pay.
Management has given clear indication through their words and actions Delta will shrink us and is no longer committing resources to keeping us competitive. Think carefully before applying here, all the reasons to come are gone unless you really want to fly a CRJ with lots of yellow stickers in NYC for subpar pay.
09-02-2022 | 04:54 PM
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Anyone who is considering applying here, I hope you understand the reality of going to an airline that is openly shrinking with no plan to address staffing issues and no desire to revisit pay or other area of the contract. The hospitality suites are gone (not that we used them anyway), Delta career progression outside of flow is gone, positive space commuting will be gone in less than two months, our "industry-leading" contract is gone.
Management has given clear indication through their words and actions Delta will shrink us and is no longer committing resources to keeping us competitive. Think carefully before applying here, all the reasons to come are gone unless you really want to fly a CRJ with lots of yellow stickers in NYC for subpar pay.
Management has given clear indication through their words and actions Delta will shrink us and is no longer committing resources to keeping us competitive. Think carefully before applying here, all the reasons to come are gone unless you really want to fly a CRJ with lots of yellow stickers in NYC for subpar pay.
09-02-2022 | 05:27 PM
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When these are the numbers without anyone making a “lateral” move and classes are still full, delta has no reason to change what they are doing.
In August, we had 60 resignations: 36 captains and 24 FOs. A total of 23 pilots went to Delta including 20 flow captains and three OTS captains. Here’s how the August attrition numbers break down:
Delta (Flow)
20
United
11
Spirit
9
American
4
JetBlue
4
Frontier
4
Delta (OTS)
3
Allegiant
2
Atlas
1
ATI
1
Quantas
1
In August, we had 60 resignations: 36 captains and 24 FOs. A total of 23 pilots went to Delta including 20 flow captains and three OTS captains. Here’s how the August attrition numbers break down:
Delta (Flow)
20
United
11
Spirit
9
American
4
JetBlue
4
Frontier
4
Delta (OTS)
3
Allegiant
2
Atlas
1
ATI
1
Quantas
1
09-02-2022 | 08:07 PM
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But how many did we hire? And given our almost last place pay at this point, what will the next few months look like for new hires. Anyone that comes here now either lives in DTW, CVG, or NYC, or they are an idiot and don’t know better. There is 0 other reason to come here. 0.
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