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Old 07-17-2018, 01:04 PM
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Well, according to the latest MEC email from today, your MEC has now openly stated that they are in talks about career progression with delta and Endeavor. See, I told us it wasn't all doom for current seniority peeps.
Wonder how long the union has known about this.
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Old 07-17-2018, 01:10 PM
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You had it right the first time...
This can only be right if an Endeavor seniority number is an entitlement to a job at Delta in order.
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Old 07-17-2018, 01:23 PM
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I don’t know how anyone on this seniority list could be happy with Delta hiring flight school graduates (not their employees) putting them on at Endeavor to gain “experience” and then taking that pilot to Delta while the pilot that gave the Delta pilot his vast experience gets left behind.

Totally reeks of seniority circumvention.

Our Union better pull out everything they have to squash this crap.
Last year's TA only guaranteed no other DCI carrier would have more favorable career progression. It didn't say anything about rampers or gate agents

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Old 07-17-2018, 01:25 PM
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Last year's TA only guaranteed no other DCI carrier would have more favorable career progression. It didn't say anything about rampers or gate agents

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Very true.

Or recent flightschool enrollees.

Damn tricky lawyers!
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Old 07-17-2018, 01:29 PM
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Last year's TA only guaranteed no other DCI carrier would have more favorable career progression. It didn't say anything about rampers or gate agents

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But that's basically what we are. We are tantamount to Delta Shoe Shine Ramper Agent ALAs.

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Old 07-17-2018, 01:50 PM
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Yes I'm quoting my own comment. How many pilots does it take to staff 60 A220's? When/If this thing goes live, it will suck up crews from regionals, no doubt. Maybe we ought to work out a flow to this startup.
Staffing models range something like 5-7 crews per airplane, so say 10 pilots per airplane, 60 airplanes = 600 ish pilots.
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Old 07-17-2018, 02:07 PM
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This is hysterical. I want to make these phone calls
I’m looking forward to having them call in for an early release after a miserable 5 day stretch of reserve. “sorry mr/mrs scheduler, it appears API is currently in a ground stop, we will not be able to release any schedulers early today.”
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I’m looking forward to having them call in for an early release after a miserable 5 day stretch of reserve. “sorry mr/mrs scheduler, it appears API is currently in a ground stop, we will not be able to release any schedulers early today.”
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Staffing models range something like 5-7 crews per airplane, so say 10 pilots per airplane, 60 airplanes = 600 ish pilots.
I believe I read somewhere...(On the JetBlue forum?) or somewhere else that these C300/A220's are replacing existing planes, not adding to the fleet. Ill see if I can find where I read that..


EDIT... On JetBlue forum...
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JetBlue Selects Airbus A220-300 as Key Component of Its Next Generation Fleet

A220-300, formerly the Bombardier CS300, provides superior value and a powerful combination of aircraft economics, range capabilities and customer experience

Airline to retire Embraer 190 fleet beginning in 2020

NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- JetBlue (NASDAQ:JBLU) today announced it has ordered 60 Airbus A220-300 aircraft – previously called the Bombardier CS300 – for delivery beginning in 2020, with the option for 60 additional aircraft beginning in 2025. The aircraft will be powered by Pratt & Whitney Geared Turbofan (GTF) PW1500G engines. The order follows JetBlue’s intensive review aimed at ensuring the best financial performance of the airline’s fleet while providing maximum flexibility to execute its network strategy and enhancing its industry-leading customer experience.

This press release features multimedia. View the full release here: https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...0710006015/en/

As part of the agreement, JetBlue has also reshaped its Airbus orderbook, including converting its order for 25 A320neos to the A321neo and adjusting the delivery schedule.

“We are evolving our fleet for the future of JetBlue, and the A220-300’s impressive range and economics offer us flexibility and support our key financial and operating priorities,” said Robin Hayes, chief executive officer, JetBlue. “As we approach our 20th anniversary, the A220, combined with our A321 and restyled A320 fleet, will help ensure we deliver the best onboard experience to customers and meet our long-term financial targets as we continue disciplined growth into the future.”

“JetBlue’s selection of the A220 aircraft as a complement to its growing A320 Family fleet is a tremendous endorsement – both of the A220 itself and of the way these two aircraft can work together to provide airline network flexibility and a great customer experience,” said Eric Schulz, chief commercial officer for Airbus. “JetBlue will be able to leverage the unbeatable efficiency of both the A321neo and the A220-300, as well as taking advantage of the roomiest and most customer-pleasing cabins of any aircraft in their size categories.”

“We’re honored by JetBlue’s confidence in selecting the A220-300 aircraft which adds to their existing order of the A320neo family of aircraft both powered by the Pratt & Whitney GTF engine,” said Chris Calio, president of commercial engines at Pratt & Whitney. “We’ve been powering JetBlue with our V2500® engines since they started operations in 2000. We now look forward to also supporting JetBlue across their two new fuel-efficient, next-generation aircraft platforms.”

State-of-the-Art Technology & Enhanced Customer Experience

The A220-300’s spacious and comfortable cabin makes it the perfect fit for JetBlue, which has consistently led U.S. airlines in the onboard experience. The A220’s cabin design offers customers the best inflight experience with wider seats, spacious overhead bins and extra-large windows that offer a great view from the sky and on the ground.

The aircraft’s advanced aerodynamics combined with a specially designed Pratt & Whitney engine help the aircraft deliver approximately 40 percent lower fuel burn per seat than JetBlue’s current E190 fleet, a reduced noise footprint and decreased emissions.

Thorough Analysis Determined Path to Greatest Value

JetBlue conducted a comprehensive review of multiple options for its 100-seat aircraft. In addition to its financial analysis, JetBlue invited frontline leaders and crewmembers, including technical operations, to evaluate the aircraft in person at JetBlue’s JFK hangar.

JetBlue plans to phase in the A220-300 as a replacement for JetBlue’s existing fleet of 60 Embraer E190 aircraft. The aircraft’s range and seating capacity will add flexibility to JetBlue’s network strategy as it targets growth in its focus cities, including options to schedule it for transcontinental flying. The aircraft also opens the door to new markets and routes that would have been unprofitable with JetBlue’s existing fleet.

“We expect the A220 to be an important long-term building block in our goal to deliver superior margins and create long-term shareholder value,” said Steve Priest, executive vice president and chief financial officer, JetBlue. “We are confident the A220 will perform well in every aspect, including network, cost, maintenance, or customer experience. Simply put – our crewmembers, customers and owners are going to love this aircraft.”

While the E190 has played an important role in JetBlue’s network since 2005, the airline’s fleet review determined that the A220’s economics would allow the airline to lower costs in the coming years. The A220 was designed by previous manufacturer Bombardier to seat between 130 and 160 customers, enabling financial and network advantages over the current 100-seat Embraer configuration.

Seamless Transition With Built-In Flexibility

“The diligence that went into this analysis from teams across JetBlue speaks to the aircraft’s importance for the next generation of our airline,” Priest said. “We expect a seamless transition, and we’ve worked with Airbus and Bombardier to build in maximum flexibility to the order book as market conditions shift over time.”

JetBlue plans to take delivery of the first five aircraft in 2020, the airline’s 20th year of service. Deliveries will continue through 2025. JetBlue expects it will begin to reduce flying with its existing fleet of E190 aircraft beginning in 2020. The phase out will continue gradually through approximately 2025.

Options for 60 additional aircraft begin in 2025, and JetBlue retains flexibility to convert certain aircraft to the smaller A220-100 if it chooses. Both members of the A220 Family share commonality in more than 99 percent of their replaceable parts as well as the same family of engines.

JetBlue’s A220 aircraft will be assembled in Mobile, Ala.

Conference Call

JetBlue will conduct an analyst and media conference call to discuss the aircraft purchase agreement on Wednesday, July 11, at 10 a.m. Eastern Time. A live broadcast of the conference call will also be available via the internet at JetBlue | Investor Relations. An analyst Q&A, followed by a media Q&A, will be held at the end of the call. Credentialed reporters can request access from JetBlue Corporate Communications, [email protected].

About JetBlue Airways

JetBlue is New York's Hometown Airline®, and a leading carrier in Boston, Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood, Los Angeles (Long Beach), Orlando, and San Juan. JetBlue carries more than 40 million customers a year to 102 cities in the U.S., Caribbean, and Latin America with an average of 1,000 daily flights. For more information please visit jetblue.com.



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Originally Posted by KaiserSoze View Post
I believe I read somewhere...(On the JetBlue forum?) or somewhere else that these C300/A220's are replacing existing planes, not adding to the fleet. Ill see if I can find where I read that..


EDIT... On JetBlue forum...
Might be talking about the moxy airways a220 order of 60 airplanes. It's a possible startup airline being headed by the original founder of JetBlue.
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