Originally Posted by ShyGuy

Have all the legacy 9E FOs from 2007 and 2008 had the chance to upgrade yet?

Originally Posted by tom14cat14

Yes, if they wanted too they could hold upgrade. Might not be in their base of choice. The part of the list we are at is Dec 2007 Mesaba and March 2008 Colgan. All legacy 9e pilots are senior to this area. Of course I might have missed something being screwed up by bloch award but it looks like they still have had the chance.

Originally Posted by higney85

AQP is now in place for initial, recurrent, and upgrade. Differences is the last piece and it will be happening very shortly. Either way, the training department will do all we can to make it a low stress learning process. Not saying it's easy, but surprises aren't in the routine, it's all clearly explained, and trained, prior to any jeopardy event. Don't worry, just have a positive attitude with the needed effort of learning and all will be well.

Nobody gets satisfaction in failing someone. If nothing else, the paperwork sucks. So it's avoided, unless it's needed. It happens, but it's rare and normally a result of attitude to not study the things required. It's not rocket science and a much "simpler" process from when I started where you needed to "build the plane". You will be trained on how everything works, and will be checked on what you can control from the flight deck. Everything is laid out with all resources available to learn. Bring a good attitude and a desire to learn and all will be well. Basic instrument skills will be helpful though...

Originally Posted by madeinUSA

We are at March 08 as of 16-01. As others have said though, not many hired between then and now.

Originally Posted by mooney

My $1.50

Many FO's got royally screwed in the seniority list integration, making them 8 year FO's.

There were several years of not hiring any new hires which stagnated everything. The aggressive hiring of new hires plus CA movement to majors etc should in theory speed up upgrade.

This in no way implies that you will upgrade in 2-3 years.

Originally Posted by Five93H

Is there need for a CVG base? Last time I was there it was pretty quiet. Had an overnight there but it seemed like we could handle the CVG flying from MSP and DTW bases.

Originally Posted by BATOL

The conventional wisdom behind a CVG base would be that it is a big mx base and we overnight a bunch of airplanes there for overnight work. In order to get those A/C back in revenue service ASAP, we also overnight a lot of crews in CVG. At one point I heard a number as high as 80 hotel rooms per night (~20 crews). Not sure how accurate that is but in theory a base there would reduce (not eliminate) hotel expenses there. All of our legacy blood lines have utilized this strategy at one time but it should be noted that none of those bases persist.

On a related note, unless you don't mind commuting, history suggests it would be ill advised to buy a house at a brand new base.

Originally Posted by Five93H

Ah didn't know we had MX there. I had an overnight in CVG on my last 4 day, didn't know how common they were. Man, place seems like a ghost town compared to a decade ago.

Originally Posted by Five93H

Ah didn't know we had MX there. I had an overnight in CVG on my last 4 day, didn't know how common they were. Man, place seems like a ghost town compared to a decade ago.