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Old 09-17-2016, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Avroman View Post
This ^^^^^ Thankfully the days of this side or that side of the fence or, "we did it this way at Pinnacle/Mesaba" are gone, the books are all basically "this is the Delta way" it doesn't matter which airplane, they are both CL-65. The differences are minor and the basic company procedures are the same. Even the days of "back on the Avro" are just a legend for most.
Haha the books are the same but the instructors still are mesaba lovers all the way. It's all they talk about hate to say it but the mesaba love and pinnacle hate runs deep in the training department.
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Old 09-17-2016, 06:44 PM
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Haha the books are the same but the instructors still are mesaba lovers all the way. It's all they talk about hate to say it but the mesaba love and pinnacle hate runs deep in the training department.
To say that about all the instructors isn't fair. There are a lot of new instructors from Pinneacle and Colgan also.
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Old 09-17-2016, 07:27 PM
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To say that about all the instructors isn't fair. There are a lot of new instructors from Pinneacle and Colgan also.
I'm one of em. Started pinnacle, in time became an instructor, life of mergers happened, here we are. There is no hate, as much as I know from "farmlover" it's not true. Everyone is now endeavor and there are the random points of "back in the day" but it's not part of any aspect of training. Sure, someone may talk "about a day" when getting coffee, but it's pure conversation and not training. There is no "3 engine out of aspen" in training. We don't have a 5 APU aircraft to talk about. Evidently it was Billy bad ass of the times up to 240 knots. Hey, times have changed to 335 indicated. Adapt, learn, and grow.
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Old 09-17-2016, 09:01 PM
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I'm one of em. Started pinnacle, in time became an instructor, life of mergers happened, here we are. There is no hate, as much as I know from "farmlover" it's not true. Everyone is now endeavor and there are the random points of "back in the day" but it's not part of any aspect of training. Sure, someone may talk "about a day" when getting coffee, but it's pure conversation and not training. There is no "3 engine out of aspen" in training. We don't have a 5 APU aircraft to talk about. Evidently it was Billy bad ass of the times up to 240 knots. Hey, times have changed to 335 indicated. Adapt, learn, and grow.
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Exactly the "back on the Dash, the flight attendants could control their own heat" is really nice to know... but it's irrelevant in today's airplanes. (no I don't know why Bombardier built a prop with that panel and didn't bother to put it in any of their jets and won't expect you to know either) I expect you to know the Endeavor books. If you feel like shooting the breeze about the old books off the record, I don't mind, but I frankly don't remember a lot of that stuff anymore as those planes are gone and so are those procedures. Show up prepared to fly a CRJ the way the instructors have instructed you to do so.... Heck there are only a couple initial ground instructors left that even were around for the "back in the day" era at this point so it shouldn't be an issue, even in the sim, it's becoming a relatively junior group....

Were there some nice things about those planes of the past, sure, are there some things nicer about the current fleet, sure. The only thing I see as moving backwards as the merger has progressed is the shrinking to serving just Delta, and the shrinking to just focusing on New York City. Yes I know we still have bases in DTW and MSP, but the focus is all NYC; SLC/LAX/SEA don't exist for us and ATL/CVG ,even DTW/MSP might as well be the same as RDU/IND, focus cities.
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Old 09-18-2016, 10:58 AM
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1 month reserve dream is dead (outside of NYC that is).
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Old 09-18-2016, 11:23 AM
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I'm seeing referrals already leaving for other regional airlines with flow agreements and comparable pay. Delta is going to have to do better than a guaranteed interview. I don't think pilots want to waste 3-5 years on a 50/50 chance.
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Old 09-18-2016, 11:27 AM
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This is musical chairs. You should go somewhere you want to be in case the music stops. The world ain't exactly stable, nor is the economy. One linchpin type event and all this awesome movement stops.
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Old 09-18-2016, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta View Post
This is musical chairs. You should go somewhere you want to be in case the music stops. The world ain't exactly stable, nor is the economy. One linchpin type event and all this awesome movement stops.
It's just a movement of where the chairs are on the sinking Titanic (the regional industry). At some point, you've got to stick with the chair you are in.
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Old 09-18-2016, 12:52 PM
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It's just a movement of where the chairs are on the sinking Titanic (the regional industry). At some point, you've got to stick with the chair you are in.
Or use your seat cushion as a flotation device and not drown with the rest of em.
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Old 09-18-2016, 12:55 PM
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Or use your seat cushion as a flotation device and not drown with the rest of em.
I love it.
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