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Old 09-16-2016, 04:57 PM
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I've been RTFF but am still wondering a few things if someone is able to answer that'd be great.

1. When is the contract amendable?
2. What is the general make up of trips from nyc? Day trips? 2,3,4-days?
3. Is upgrade time still running about a year?
4. Commuter rules?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 09-16-2016, 04:59 PM
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Commuter question. I have an interview coming up and I live in maine. I live closer to Portland and there is usually endeavor flights going to LGA (always the morning one). But usually it's 4 flights a day adjusted to 5 in the summer. I'm an hour and a half from Boston so that's also an option. Would I run into risky territory going out of Portland just because it's all on regional jets? Just trying to get an idea. I've done the commuting thing before but it was all on mainline stuff so I usually got on 95% of the time.
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Old 09-16-2016, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by WMUFlyboy1
I find for the most part people are happy here. You have a collection of individuals who are still sour from the merger/bankruptcy but most people will admit this is the best things have been in the history of the company.

I have been here almost exactly a year, on the Detroit 200. Before I pick anything up, I have been getting 17ish days off a month. October mock has me at 18.
To add on, been here a decade. From street CA's in 2006, to the 2008/09 financial crisis, to a failed TA (for a couple carriers), merger of 3, to industry leading JCBA, to chapter 11, to becoming wholly owned, through a massive shrinkage (don't get dirty, be a professional), to a bankruptcy JCBA garnering new airplanes and a resurgence of past, things are good now. In the end, we have -900's leased through 2019, -200's coming out of the desert with the lowest hours and cycles, and oil futures through 2021 not moving more than $4, wiggle room added, from the current spot price (43.19 at cboe close with a $48 flat 2021 future on the same exchange). That's a massive grammatical fragment, and I don't apologize.

Delta, as evident by other carriers, realize that the regionals have to fight to attract and retain talent. Delta isn't stupid, they do what is needed, when needed. So far, they lead the pack, and they only have 9E to cover the feed by hands-on control. Every other carrier works on RFP basis. If you, as solely a generalization, took business classes in college, the idea of supply/demand is understood. Step back and take a look. I have no basis of gain and already have my escape planned, but take a look from a 3rd person viewpoint. We have upgrades coming from the June 2016 class. Others senior will upgrade with time, but you can't argue the facts.

Airplanes stopped coming not by staffing, it was by hours. Fall is a low point. Holidays can do short term ramp ups, look at FDX for a model, but the next group shows up for more flights to start in the spring on the -200 with fuel already hedged at under $50/barrel. The -200 dies above $80/barrel on block hour. That basis comes from playing futures, the market, and actually seeing the planning figures. Only variable is pilots to fly it. That's a pure S/D metric. Hope everyone reading this can understand that chart metric. Not saying carriers working under other majors won't see the same success, but endeavor is under a strong veil with a tipped hand of ensuring feed. That's a good thing for 9e.

But hey, what do I know.
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Old 09-16-2016, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by higney85
To add on, been here a decade. From street CA's in 2006, to the 2008/09 financial crisis, to a failed TA (for a couple carriers), merger of 3, to industry leading JCBA, to chapter 11, to becoming wholly owned, through a massive shrinkage (don't get dirty, be a professional), to a bankruptcy JCBA garnering new airplanes and a resurgence of past, things are good now. In the end, we have -900's leased through 2019, -200's coming out of the desert with the lowest hours and cycles, and oil futures through 2021 not moving more than $4, wiggle room added, from the current spot price (43.19 at cboe close with a $48 flat 2021 future on the same exchange). That's a massive grammatical fragment, and I don't apologize.

Delta, as evident by other carriers, realize that the regionals have to fight to attract and retain talent. Delta isn't stupid, they do what is needed, when needed. So far, they lead the pack, and they only have 9E to cover the feed by hands-on control. Every other carrier works on RFP basis. If you, as solely a generalization, took business classes in college, the idea of supply/demand is understood. Step back and take a look. I have no basis of gain and already have my escape planned, but take a look from a 3rd person viewpoint. We have upgrades coming from the June 2016 class. Others senior will upgrade with time, but you can't argue the facts.

Airplanes stopped coming not by staffing, it was by hours. Fall is a low point. Holidays can do short term ramp ups, look at FDX for a model, but the next group shows up for more flights to start in the spring on the -200 with fuel already hedged at under $50/barrel. The -200 dies above $80/barrel on block hour. That basis comes from playing futures, the market, and actually seeing the planning figures. Only variable is pilots to fly it. That's a pure S/D metric. Hope everyone reading this can understand that chart metric. Not saying carriers working under other majors won't see the same success, but endeavor is under a strong veil with a tipped hand of ensuring feed. That's a good thing for 9e.

But hey, what do I know.
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Well said, can't argue with any of that. Some folks will get wrapped around the axle with every little thing. Sure NYC is ramping up now, it was DTW before, it's cyclical.

Would I like to see two class growth? Sure, it's a little more 'stable' I'd say, but with the fleet we have we are still able to grow our pool (up 200 pilots since I've been here) and upgrades have come with every vacancy. When I first started asking about Endeavor it was from old CFIs "stay away, they are downgrading and parking jets"...
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Old 09-16-2016, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by teddy3412
Commuter question. I have an interview coming up and I live in maine. I live closer to Portland and there is usually endeavor flights going to LGA (always the morning one). But usually it's 4 flights a day adjusted to 5 in the summer. I'm an hour and a half from Boston so that's also an option. Would I run into risky territory going out of Portland just because it's all on regional jets? Just trying to get an idea. I've done the commuting thing before but it was all on mainline stuff so I usually got on 95% of the time.
Are there less seats, yes. That is also because it is a smaller market obviously. Living at a smaller outstation with less frequency will mean that commuting to certain trips might require positioning day before instead of day 1. But in your situation, if getting there from PWM doesn't look like it would work out maybe you can preemptively drive to BOS. There is also usually a BGR flight to LGA in the morning, but my geographical knowledge of the area isn't strong enough to know if that's a better option than BOS. BOS has the Delta Shuttle thing going on so during the week day there are hourly flights, which park at the C gates and not the Marine Air Terminal which in turn gives you one less bus ride.

Our policy at Endeavor is to give yourself two options to get to work before your show time. If you miss the first, call in. If you miss the second more than a handful of times they might send you to a mediation board or something where they discuss why you're struggling to commute. Never heard of that happening to anyone though, including people doing much rougher commutes than PWM-LGA.
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Old 09-16-2016, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by WMUFlyboy1
So looks like the most junior upgrade on 16-04 initial is a June 2016 new hire (not return to work). Pretty close to the guess of July.

Really surprised they didn't fill any DTW 200 CA vacancy. they are extremely short staffed there... I understand the want/need to grow NY, but you can't let the rest of the operation suffer.




Actually, they've been doing just that for over a year. It's become all about New York 900 flying. That is by far the top priority (and that's because that's where the biggest $$$ is) They have been shorting the reserve coverage in DTW and MSP to keep the maximum amount of reserve coverage in LGA and JFK for some time now.
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Old 09-16-2016, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Aviationslave
We don't have long call but if you are planning on NYC you might be on reserve a month.


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How many days off you can have in a month been JFK f/o?
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Old 09-16-2016, 06:37 PM
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Now that Envoy offers more $$$, R there is any rumors of extending the bonus at 9E?
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Old 09-16-2016, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by AnotherWriter
Are there less seats, yes. That is also because it is a smaller market obviously. Living at a smaller outstation with less frequency will mean that commuting to certain trips might require positioning day before instead of day 1. But in your situation, if getting there from PWM doesn't look like it would work out maybe you can preemptively drive to BOS. There is also usually a BGR flight to LGA in the morning, but my geographical knowledge of the area isn't strong enough to know if that's a better option than BOS. BOS has the Delta Shuttle thing going on so during the week day there are hourly flights, which park at the C gates and not the Marine Air Terminal which in turn gives you one less bus ride.

Our policy at Endeavor is to give yourself two options to get to work before your show time. If you miss the first, call in. If you miss the second more than a handful of times they might send you to a mediation board or something where they discuss why you're struggling to commute. Never heard of that happening to anyone though, including people doing much rougher commutes than PWM-LGA.
Awesome thanks for the answer. I figure I'll just have to mix it up between bos and pwm when the situation sees fit. Bgr is pretty far from me so that isn't much of an option.
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Old 09-16-2016, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AnotherWriter
We may start to need it. Glad to see the whole "Envoy looks slightly better oh my god the sky is falling here at 9E" movement ended in about 48 hours, but there are some things that really need to be improved here. I like the idea of the stipend for NYC based pilots someone mentioned a few pages back. Wouldn't mind the company paying for my crashpad.
It didn't end! Don't kid yourself. Stipend is a small piece of a bigger problem,
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