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Old 09-19-2016, 03:20 PM
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Fly over country? Bro do you know where your food comes from? It's in these places you call fly over, that you can get the best up bringings learn how to actually be a man hard work hunt, fish. Not take a government handout. But it's ok we don't like wussy yuppies here anyway! And btw a lot of guys feel the same way about NYC base being bad!
No one hunts, fishes, grows food, or earns money outside of the Midwest? You conveniently skipped over the entire point of the post. NY is a horrible base in YOUR OPINION. Just as many or more want nothing to do with the Midwest. Accept that you are not right, and neither am I. Bases are good for some, not for others.
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Old 09-19-2016, 03:43 PM
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Can someone explain how they assign RR. The way I read the contract after assigning the volunteers, they are to assign in inverse seniority order. That doesn't appear to be happening, I have been having 2-3 guys jr to me not be assigned it.
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Old 09-19-2016, 03:45 PM
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Can someone explain how they assign RR. The way I read the contract after assigning the volunteers, they are to assign in inverse seniority order. That doesn't appear to be happening, I have been having 2-3 guys jr to me not be assigned it.
That's how it's supposed to happen correct.

I still don't understand CS
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Old 09-19-2016, 03:45 PM
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On a separate note, are pink ties a thing for October at 9E/Delta?
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Old 09-19-2016, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AGJ1125 View Post
I am quite happy with 9E and have nothing but good things to say about my experience so far. The commute takes a toll and the conditions changing at Envoy made me think about giving them a closer look, that's all. Thank you for the thoughts and feedback. Those are all very good points.


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Been at 9E for 5 months. I have to admit that envoy got my attention and I gave it some thought and discussed it with my family. After a couple of days we just came to the conclusion that its better to stay put. Slightly better pay and specially the flow was very tempting, but not enough to make a lateral move for me. I like it here at 9E a lot and I think this is a great company to work for... I also hope they work on something in the next few months to keep atracting new hires and keep me motivated to work here. I personally think Delta should give the flow a second thought.

If I was still a cfi Today not knowing much about work rules and looking for a job today, envoy or psa would probably be my top 2 choices.... Flow beats interview and 58k beats 50k a year. Plain and simple.

I dont know how the QOL is at envoy or psa, but based on these forums, is not very good. That is a big plus for 9E, which I think has excellent work rules except for reserve (Which I didnt really care cause only did it for 1 month)... On October I have over 20 days off and weekends off as a line holder. That is hard to beat, specially if I have been here only 5 months.

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Old 09-19-2016, 04:44 PM
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Been at 9E for 5 months. I have to admit that envoy got my attention and I gave it some thought and discussed it with my family. After a couple of days we just came to the conclusion that its better to stay put. Slightly better pay and specially the flow was very tempting, but not enough to make a lateral move for me. I like it here at 9E a lot and I think this is a great company to work for... I also hope they work on something in the next few months to keep atracting new hires and keep me motivated to work here. I personally think Delta should give the flow a second thought.

If I was still a cfi Today not knowing much about work rules and looking for a job today, envoy or psa would probably be my top 2 choices.... Flow beats interview and 58k beats 50k a year. Plain and simple.

I dont know how the QOL is at envoy or psa, but based on these forums, is not very good. That is a big plus for 9E, which I think has excellent work rules except for reserve (Which I didnt really care cause only did it for 1 month)... On October I have over 20 days off and weekends off as a line holder. That is hard to beat, specially if I have been here only 5 months.
20 days off after 5 months? Can I take PBS lessons from you?

Seriously though, if you don't mind, what tipped the scales in 9E's favor for you? I'm in a similar boat; been at 9E 6 months, overall happy with the company, but Envoy would mean a far easier commute...ORD and DFW both are cakewalks compared to the 2-leg I do now. That and American is my 1st choice.
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Old 09-19-2016, 04:52 PM
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If he got 20 days he's in LGA as a 200 FO. Every one (or darn near) of their line holders got 20 days (or 21) off for oct.


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Old 09-19-2016, 05:05 PM
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On a separate note, are pink ties a thing for October at 9E/Delta?
Yep! I wore mine last year.
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Old 09-19-2016, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by greygoose View Post
Can someone explain how they assign RR. The way I read the contract after assigning the volunteers, they are to assign in inverse seniority order. That doesn't appear to be happening, I have been having 2-3 guys jr to me not be assigned it.
I have called CS a few times when I think this is happening and here is what I have found out. For P2 and P3 RR shifts, I was informed that you must be overnight-able. So perhaps, those junior to you only have one day remaining on their reserve block and cannot be assigned RR for the above reserve periods. Second case was the junior reserve pilot was not contactable the day prior and they stick you with the RR shift and leave the junior pilot on home reserve. Another; more questionable scenario I was given is as follows. A junior reserve pilot was given an assignment( I choose last out as a preference) and I was then assigned RR due to pecking order. For whatever reason the once given assignment was removed and that pilot was placed back on home reserve even though I was still showing P1 RR. Scheduling said that is just a bad break and they couldn't change it for whatever technical/contractual reasons.
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Old 09-19-2016, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NewOldGuy View Post
If he got 20 days he's in LGA as a 200 FO. Every one (or darn near) of their line holders got 20 days (or 21) off for oct.


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Yep pretty much most line holders in lga/200 got similar schedules
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