Originally Posted by Kforekyle

I spoke with a scheduler about a year-and-a-half ago and ask him about plans for growth and he mentioned they were running numbers on a virtual base for Cincinnati. No management strictly virtual. I'm guessing this is what he was talking about.

Originally Posted by gloopy

You're half right. Sort of.

CMR never had seniority numbers at mainline. Ever.

They did (kind of) sue for a seniority grab, but did so indirectly. Technically it was about "the process" not the list, but the purpose of the process was eventually one list, which you could almost argue was somewhat noble to a point. However the methodology used was to take the runway, reach V1, and then figure it out. That put everything from DOH to relative to staple on the table from a theoretical standpoint, yet of that was directly linkable to them at the time.

So they never had numbers. But they thought they were going to get numbers, and they were coopted by greedy ego maniacs who though the noble "process" would get them a staple as a floor regardless, and likely closer to relative or DOH with nothing to lose.

Water under the bridge and not entirely relevant to Endeavor, though there may be some degree of overlap from a mentality perspective, I don't know.

Originally Posted by Mesabah

This reminds me of Comair, who had seniority numbers at mainline, but decided to sue for a seniority grab, where are they now?

Originally Posted by TalkTurkey

I'm faintly curious. Was this supposed to be funny by chance? Or was it...what was it, anyway? Probably the dumbest thing I've ever read in all the regional threads and that, I dare say, is an achievement and a half, sir.

Originally Posted by stillcantfly

Now that situation was absolutely greed. Hell if they offered a staple (not saying they will) I'd take it hands down! You would be stupid to ask for more.

Originally Posted by Nantonaku

You've been at Endeavor how long? Of course you would take a staple. Why would someone with 15 years seniority doing the same flying as another pilot at another ALPA carrier want and/or agree to be stapled behind someone with 1 month of seniority? Not everyone is 26 and still living in their parent's basement and can afford the seniority hit. There is a reason the SSP participation rate was so low. Comair was probably right at the time to try for more and so would any other airline getting bought by another airline. And this is why there will never be a staple or a merger of a regional into a major airline.

Originally Posted by stillcantfly

Hahahahahahaha wow hahhahahahaha that's funny your funny been here 8 years pre pinnacle married with kids and I can assure you I don't live with my parents sorry to hear you must be in that situation. Hahahahaha

Originally Posted by Kforekyle

I am faintly curious also. Are you a jerk in person or do you just post like a jerk. This is what I heard just passing it along.

Originally Posted by Nantonaku

You've been at Endeavor how long? Of course you would take a staple. Why would someone with 15 years seniority doing the same flying as another pilot at another ALPA carrier want and/or agree to be stapled behind someone with 1 month of seniority? Not everyone is 26 and still living in their parent's basement and can afford the seniority hit. There is a reason the SSP participation rate was so low. Comair was probably right at the time to try for more and so would any other airline getting bought by another airline. And this is why there will never be a staple or a merger of a regional into a major airline.