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Old 03-01-2017, 10:48 AM   #11281  
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I agree with you.

I remember how the ATL 900 guys felt when ASA was championing the deliveries and the same thing was felt at Colgan when RAH was loving the Q400s.

These are all union jobs.

We are witnessing the DCI Shuffle in action folks and to think Endeavor is immune is shockingly foolish.
Of course we're not. Just have a plan to get out when the Endeavor house of cards crashes down. Delta will always shift their regional flying around or eventually just bring it in house.
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Old 03-01-2017, 10:58 AM   #11282  
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I bet 75% of the ATL200 CA slots go to current Captains and 20% of the LGA900 CA go to JFK/DTW/MSP Captains. The rest will probably fall around 1150 seniority, maybe a few random ones a bit higher.

The million dollar question is if DTW/MSP guys bid down to ATL, will the company backfill those Captain slots. My bet is no. If NYC200 guys bid down to ATL I suspect those slots will be backfilled.
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What's your logic? Not saying you're wrong just curious.
This is all hear say and opinion based from gossip but I bet a good 50-60 percent of those captain slots might be filled with guys who are already captains in New York who commute from Florida or Memphis and stuff and are looking for an easier commute. It can create secondary but that will be dependent on if its 200 or 900 guys leaving to go to ATL. If its alot of 200 guys it can be good but if its 900 guys looking to make the switch, itll go senior with guys who have been on property a while taking those spots. I say this all in the logic of awac guys coming in looking for a fast upgrade.
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Old 03-01-2017, 11:24 AM   #11284  
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Why wouldn't the company backfill some of the DTW, or MSP captain slots? Say all 40 ATL captain slots go to current captains..wouldn't there still be a need for 40 new captains? Attrition+14 airplanes. Sure DTW and MSP aren't growing, but the overall fleet is.
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Old 03-01-2017, 11:39 AM   #11285  
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Why wouldn't the company backfill some of the DTW, or MSP captain slots? Say all 40 ATL captain slots go to current captains..wouldn't there still be a need for 40 new captains? Attrition+14 airplanes. Sure DTW and MSP aren't growing, but the overall fleet is.
One reason would be possible further reduction of those bases. If they can reduce now and avoid a displacement later...

I have no crystal ball but there are reasons they wouldn't. Yes they would be short CA's but could immediately issue another vacancy with additional positions elsewhere. Again, I dont know that they are going to do this but it's a scenario that supports not backfilling.
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Old 03-01-2017, 11:54 AM   #11286  
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Why wouldn't the company backfill some of the DTW, or MSP captain slots? Say all 40 ATL captain slots go to current captains..wouldn't there still be a need for 40 new captains? Attrition+14 airplanes. Sure DTW and MSP aren't growing, but the overall fleet is.
I think there will be some back filling on the 200CA in DTW/MSP, I highly doubt any will be on the 900CA in those bases.
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Anybody else get EFB shipping notification? Endeavor is being made great today.
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One reason would be possible further reduction of those bases. If they can reduce now and avoid a displacement later...

I have no crystal ball but there are reasons they wouldn't. Yes they would be short CA's but could immediately issue another vacancy with additional positions elsewhere. Again, I dont know that they are going to do this but it's a scenario that supports not backfilling.
If the company is adding 14AC won't they need 70 additional CA's this year. How would they not backfill if say all 70 came from MSP 200 CA?
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We're not losing airframes. DTW and MSP will get more 200s when they leave NY. Most of ATL is from XJT and from what Gumm said it's about 20 200s. If you figure 5 crews per airplane and 200 crews. So the shuffle begins. If DTW and MSP lose flying it is only temporary until the 200s from NY are available. Also Memphis to Atlanta is not very commutable unless you like driving.
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We're not losing airframes. DTW and MSP will get more 200s when they leave NY. Most of ATL is from XJT and from what Gumm said it's about 20 200s. If you figure 5 crews per airplane and 200 crews. So the shuffle begins. If DTW and MSP lose flying it is only temporary until the 200s from NY are available. Also Memphis to Atlanta is not very commutable unless you like driving.
17-01 will see a shuffle, but overall a net gain in captains. That's my opinion FWIW.
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