Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
03-02-2017, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey
No no, I don't mean lose airframes as an airline. I mean lose frames from one base to another in conjunction with those bases losing market block hours. Speculation is fun as to where you think the shells will go after NYC reduced 200s after summer. In terms of keeping up, I'm certain and it's my job to know these things before you do.
03-02-2017, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Avroman
Some of those 200's from NYC are scheduled to go to ATL, a few are scheduled to go to MSP and DTW, but those are at the expense of further reducing the 900's in MSP and DTW and sending more of those to NYC. Basically it's going to further exacerbate the extreme seniority needed to hold MSP and DTW 900. It will likely be over 12 years just to hold captain (and if you aren't in the position already, there is no way to get there) and probably approaching 20 to hold a line as captain. I know there are a few guys looking at bidding back to 200 captain to get off reserve, but can't because there still aren't any openings in MSP or DTW for that either.... if they backfill on 17-01, they will likely be voluntary downgrades of 900 captains that don't like the looks of several years on reserve on the 900 and don't want to go to New York.
03-02-2017, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey
Can anyone make sense of the reason why we are going to ATL while EV comes to NYC? Like, why not just leave people put? Isn't it like trading a dollar bill for four quarters?
03-02-2017, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey
Can anyone make sense of the reason why we are going to ATL while EV comes to NYC? Like, why not just leave people put? Isn't it like trading a dollar bill for four quarters?
EDV numbers will become successively worse as 200 flying increases, your numbers are always down the smaller and crappier a plane you fly. Saab numbers were always in the bucket because pax hate props.
If EDV continues flying with jackalope ny'ers on 200s are numbers will tank harder.
DL always had sellers regret on ASA tying 80% of their flying to ATL, because they need to shuffle flying around for legal reasons and as a negotiations chip.
Move EDV big birds to NYC and get the best aircraft we have (CRJ9 is a joke too but whatever) in the worst area for service and put the flying dumpster in ATL where southerners are nice and customers are used to the product. Our numbers get as much help as they can, but we're still going to have to step it up on service.
Meanwhile Skywest and Delta hammer skyw subsidiary XJT with the "you're not good enough look at your numbers" bullskeet.
I hate regional life, but I hate it worse when regionals purposefully get setup to fail.
03-02-2017, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Slaveaway
We could see the most junior upgrade approaching 2.5-3+ years then on
03-02-2017, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Avroman
Some of those 200's from NYC are scheduled to go to ATL, a few are scheduled to go to MSP and DTW, but those are at the expense of further reducing the 900's in MSP and DTW and sending more of those to NYC. Basically it's going to further exacerbate the extreme seniority needed to hold MSP and DTW 900. It will likely be over 12 years just to hold captain (and if you aren't in the position already, there is no way to get there) and probably approaching 20 to hold a line as captain. I know there are a few guys looking at bidding back to 200 captain to get off reserve, but can't because there still aren't any openings in MSP or DTW for that either.... if they backfill on 17-01, they will likely be voluntary downgrades of 900 captains that don't like the looks of several years on reserve on the 900 and don't want to go to New York.
from now you will be able to hold MSP 200 CA.
03-02-2017, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JesuitValen
EDV needs to do well on its customers service numbers so Delta can hang those numbers over other regionals during negotiations.
EDV numbers will become successively worse as 200 flying increases, your numbers are always down the smaller and crappier a plane you fly. Saab numbers were always in the bucket because pax hate props.
If EDV continues flying with jackalope ny'ers on 200s are numbers will tank harder.
DL always had sellers regret on ASA tying 80% of their flying to ATL, because they need to shuffle flying around for legal reasons and as a negotiations chip.
Move EDV big birds to NYC and get the best aircraft we have (CRJ9 is a joke too but whatever) in the worst area for service and put the flying dumpster in ATL where southerners are nice and customers are used to the product. Our numbers get as much help as they can, but we're still going to have to step it up on service.
Meanwhile Skywest and Delta hammer skyw subsidiary XJT with the "you're not good enough look at your numbers" bullskeet.
I hate regional life, but I hate it worse when regionals purposefully get setup to fail.
EDV numbers will become successively worse as 200 flying increases, your numbers are always down the smaller and crappier a plane you fly. Saab numbers were always in the bucket because pax hate props.
If EDV continues flying with jackalope ny'ers on 200s are numbers will tank harder.
DL always had sellers regret on ASA tying 80% of their flying to ATL, because they need to shuffle flying around for legal reasons and as a negotiations chip.
Move EDV big birds to NYC and get the best aircraft we have (CRJ9 is a joke too but whatever) in the worst area for service and put the flying dumpster in ATL where southerners are nice and customers are used to the product. Our numbers get as much help as they can, but we're still going to have to step it up on service.
Meanwhile Skywest and Delta hammer skyw subsidiary XJT with the "you're not good enough look at your numbers" bullskeet.
I hate regional life, but I hate it worse when regionals purposefully get setup to fail.
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