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Old 12-03-2016 | 09:03 PM
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Autopilot? EDV has those??? And what's this nonsense about a CA spinning knobs? You mean I don't have to do it all by myself while he stresses over frequency changes? Man, have I been snookered!!

Originally Posted by Five93H
All depends on the day. If LGA is in a temporary lull, I've hand flown the Whitestone a few times, communication ahead of time is all it takes. Likewise I'm more than happy to spin the bugs as needed for a frantic few minutes. Some guys are AP on at 600 and off at 500. Then I've had guys who are on at 250 and off at 10,000.
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Old 12-03-2016 | 09:17 PM
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Relatively few flights I have been on have the AP on at 600'. But safety folks say yn the 200, about 6% of all flight time is accomplished without the AP on. On the 900, that drops to about 3-4%. Not a huge amount of hand flying, by any means.


Originally Posted by bonesbrigade
That's not the normal call at all.
That is the minimum engagement height.
In the thousands of hours I have here I'd say that maybe 20 percent of the time it is called for right at 600.
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Old 12-03-2016 | 10:02 PM
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I had a CJO at Envoy earlier this year. Chose EDV. Would do it again today. The SSP and DGI and flow are all the same in my mind. Not worthless, but nearly so. If it takes me 6 years to move up in this environment, I should be driving a truck instead. The stagnation folks faced the last 10-15 years is gone. Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather go to a LCC in the next 6 months than wait 6-8 years for DL or AA.

Originally Posted by AnotherWriter
It isn't uncommon to hear newer FOs saying if they could do it over they would probably be at Envoy/PSA/PDT. Seeing where everything is now... I would probably have looked harder at Envoy honestly. Hindsight is 20/20 though and 9E is a great place to be regardless.
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Old 12-03-2016 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
Relatively few flights I have been on have the AP on at 600'. But safety folks say yn the 200, about 6% of all flight time is accomplished without the AP on. On the 900, that drops to about 3-4%. Not a huge amount of hand flying, by any means.
I usually handfly for a little bit unless it's early in the morning or a really short flight. Then George is driving at 600'. I haven't flown with anyone that has a issue flying the airplane.
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Old 12-03-2016 | 10:48 PM
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Try doing a LAN turn raw data. It's quite refreshing!

Originally Posted by seminolepilot
I usually handfly for a little bit unless it's early in the morning or a really short flight. Then George is driving at 600'. I haven't flown with anyone that has a issue flying the airplane.
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Old 12-04-2016 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
Relatively few flights I have been on have the AP on at 600'. But safety folks say yn the 200, about 6% of all flight time is accomplished without the AP on. On the 900, that drops to about 3-4%. Not a huge amount of hand flying, by any means.
I will say for myself I haven't once turned the autopilot on at 600' since I started here over a year ago. Captains seem to do it 50/50 in my opinion.
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Old 12-04-2016 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by DasSchwerin
I will say for myself I haven't once turned the autopilot on at 600' since I started here over a year ago. Captains seem to do it 50/50 in my opinion.
Unless it's NYC. I had one really rough departure out of there when I was first starting out... the 'ol Whitestone off 13 and because I was handflying we got really, concerningly far, behind the aircraft. Bad CRM, too much workload. It's just safer to use George in NY. Besides, we get to practice the handflying on the Expressway every other day.

I'm happy to see people in this thread talking about actually handflying though.
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Old 12-04-2016 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
If it takes me 6 years to move up in this environment, I should be driving a truck instead. The stagnation folks faced the last 10-15 years is gone.
Many said the same thing in 2000. 2005. 2008. Id put more money on Ms Cleo (rip) giving me winning powerball numbers than predicting absolutes in this industry.
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Old 12-04-2016 | 07:08 AM
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The whitestone climb is just a turn to the right then a turn to the left. People need the autopilot to accomplish that?
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Old 12-04-2016 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by greenroute
The whitestone climb is just a turn to the right then a turn to the left. People need the autopilot to accomplish that?
It's not the flying if the airplane, it's the spinning dials, frequency change, configuration changes, and checklists which kinda amp up the workload.
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