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Old 02-26-2019, 08:18 PM
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So most DEC's can expect the E145 and ORD? Reserve also?
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:21 PM
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So most DEC's can expect the E145 and ORD? Reserve also?
You can't really expect anything, for now it looks like ORD E145, but it can change. And yes, reserve. Lots, and lots, of reserve. You'll need a Netflix subscription. And Amazon Prime, when you've watched every single thing in Netflix.
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Old 02-27-2019, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy68 View Post
So most DEC's can expect the E145 and ORD? Reserve also?
The DEC program will be coming to an end by the summer. So you might want to think long and hard about your QOL and what it will be if you decide to come to Envoy. If you were to come into the next class you wouldn’t put more than 25 pilots under you before the program ends. That’s a crappy reserve life...unless you live in base.
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Old 02-27-2019, 02:48 AM
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Yeah whatever. Sorry for trying to help. Clearly the union seniority list isn't accurate.

The junior MCE on the union seniority list is ~1380 seniority number, DOH 7/2017. And the latest flow plan doesn't have anyone junior to him moving over to MCE.
Looking at the reserve list, looks like there are 6 MCE's who have moved there after my "reference point" from the union list.
We’ve had DEC who sat LGA for a few month then transferred to Miami for over a year now. It’s been over a year since most junior CA was anywhere near 1300.
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:33 AM
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We’ve had DEC who sat LGA for a few month then transferred to Miami for over a year now. It’s been over a year since most junior CA was anywhere near 1300.
Yeah but at what cost. DECs make what, 65k? And the worst QOL out there. Far, far better choices than coming to Envoy.
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Old 02-27-2019, 04:54 AM
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Yeah but at what cost. DECs make what, 65k? And the worst QOL out there. Far, far better choices than coming to Envoy.
That may be true. It’s an individual choice for their situation and what’s best. But that wasn’t the point anyway. I was just pointing out the seniority.
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Old 02-27-2019, 08:07 AM
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Hey guys, I've got 1273 hrs of SIC 121 in a B727, BUT, I haven't flown for an air carrier in over 18 years. Think they would still consider me?

I've got an ATP, 4734 TT, 2914 PIC, and the 1273 SIC, but no turbine PIC. Thanks in advance.
Yes, they will consider you, and they WILL make you a DEC. You need to think long and hard about being hired directly as a CA after an 18 year absence. It is possible you could talk them into 6 months as an FO, but not guaranteed. Worth an interview to have that discussion if everything else is a good fit for you.
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Old 02-27-2019, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy68 View Post
Hey guys, I've got 1273 hrs of SIC 121 in a B727, BUT, I haven't flown for an air carrier in over 18 years. Think they would still consider me?

I've got an ATP, 4734 TT, 2914 PIC, and the 1273 SIC, but no turbine PIC. Thanks in advance.
I heard of a guy at
envoy who had over 1000 hours 121 from over 10 years ago and he actually joined as an FO for a few months then was forced to upgrade. Turns out he failed upgrade twice and was sent back to FO. Not sure if anyone wants that on their record.
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Old 02-27-2019, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SkylineAviation View Post
We’ve had DEC who sat LGA for a few month then transferred to Miami for over a year now. It’s been over a year since most junior CA was anywhere near 1300.
Ok, looks like it's an error on the seniority list then.
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Old 02-27-2019, 10:55 AM
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Rookie base question...coming from a former one base shop:
Once you can bid into a base...does that mean you get to keep it?
I mean, at least as long as you want...or bid off of it?
Or, can a senior pilot (in your a/c and seat) push you out of it?
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