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01-11-2018, 05:38 PM
#11
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 210
Originally Posted by MediumRare
Hi guys, would you mind sharing some advice from your experience and some of your coworkers?
I am considering jumping ship to Envoy. I am shy of 800 hours 121.
I live in my base ORD and I will only consider Envoy if upgrading to the 175 in ORD is an option at 1000hrs 121 time.
The $30K check day 1 of school, base, and capt salary are my main reasons. I understand the reserve rules and work conditions.
Am I being realistic about this happening? what would recommend to do? interviewing and see what they have to say?
I am open for suggestions
I am considering jumping ship to Envoy. I am shy of 800 hours 121.
I live in my base ORD and I will only consider Envoy if upgrading to the 175 in ORD is an option at 1000hrs 121 time.
The $30K check day 1 of school, base, and capt salary are my main reasons. I understand the reserve rules and work conditions.
Am I being realistic about this happening? what would recommend to do? interviewing and see what they have to say?
I am open for suggestions
01-11-2018, 05:41 PM
#12
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Joined APC: May 2011
Posts: 239
Originally Posted by MediumRare
Hi guys, would you mind sharing some advice from your experience and some of your coworkers?
I am considering jumping ship to Envoy. I am shy of 800 hours 121.
I live in my base ORD and I will only consider Envoy if upgrading to the 175 in ORD is an option at 1000hrs 121 time.
The $30K check day 1 of school, base, and capt salary are my main reasons. I understand the reserve rules and work conditions.
Am I being realistic about this happening? what would recommend to do? interviewing and see what they have to say?
I am open for suggestions
I am considering jumping ship to Envoy. I am shy of 800 hours 121.
I live in my base ORD and I will only consider Envoy if upgrading to the 175 in ORD is an option at 1000hrs 121 time.
The $30K check day 1 of school, base, and capt salary are my main reasons. I understand the reserve rules and work conditions.
Am I being realistic about this happening? what would recommend to do? interviewing and see what they have to say?
I am open for suggestions
The 121 pilot bonus is fantastic, upgrade is instantaneous (if you want that immediately at 1000 hrs 121), you’ll be able to live in base at some point if not inmediately, and you’ll put “flow to a major” insurance in your back pocket.
My experience with Envoy has been positive. Everyone’s experience is different. Unless you love your current place (which I’m guessing is debatable since you’re considering a change), then Envoy is probably a good place to be right now.
Now hopefully enough dominoes will fall here soon to get the rates increased. Seems like at some point it will have to become inevitable. We’ll see...
01-11-2018, 05:42 PM
#13
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Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,523
Originally Posted by MediumRare
Hi guys, would you mind sharing some advice from your experience and some of your coworkers?
I am considering jumping ship to Envoy. I am shy of 800 hours 121.
I live in my base ORD and I will only consider Envoy if upgrading to the 175 in ORD is an option at 1000hrs 121 time.
The $30K check day 1 of school, base, and capt salary are my main reasons. I understand the reserve rules and work conditions.
Am I being realistic about this happening? what would recommend to do? interviewing and see what they have to say?
I am open for suggestions
I am considering jumping ship to Envoy. I am shy of 800 hours 121.
I live in my base ORD and I will only consider Envoy if upgrading to the 175 in ORD is an option at 1000hrs 121 time.
The $30K check day 1 of school, base, and capt salary are my main reasons. I understand the reserve rules and work conditions.
Am I being realistic about this happening? what would recommend to do? interviewing and see what they have to say?
I am open for suggestions
01-11-2018, 06:33 PM
#14
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 147
Originally Posted by bigtime209
175 will be out of the question. Other equipment in ORD, not impossible. You may get the 175 initially as an FO, but you will be displaced to CA in the 145 or CRJ as soon as you hit 1,000 hrs 121 time. There are many things to consider when choosing an airline, whether it be staying put somewhere or jumping to another place. Pay, QOL, work rules, etc. But seriously dude, the main focus of your decision making shouldn't be an airplane.
01-11-2018, 07:57 PM
#15
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 1,609
Originally Posted by Virga show
Spending the rest of your time at ENVOY on 6 am standby in LGA is what you will be doing. Along with many junior mans because we can’t fill captains seats. You will be Lucky to make it to any other aircraft besides the 145. I’ve been hear almost 2 years and I’m still a 6 months to a year from holding the 175 CA ORD/DFW
01-11-2018, 08:48 PM
#16
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,030
The road to any CA slot will pass through LGA 145 if you’re a newhire. But to be fair there will be so much movement and uncertainty with an evolving fleet and people quitting/flowing, nobody can give you a clear picture of how it will be.
01-12-2018, 07:17 AM
#17
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Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 7
Hello all,
It's been 4 years since I've been in the aviation industry and have approximately 750 hours SIC Part 121. I'm looking at Envoy due to having a skeleton in my closet (incident) back from my flight instructing days and would like to have flow as an insurance policy in the event I can't get on elsewhere prior.
I would appreciate some insight in connection to how long it will take the company to displaced me to CA.
Would I at least have a few months on reserve/line to reach the 1,000 hrs to knock of some rust and gain my bearings? Or are they immediately displacing after FO training anybody that's close to the 1,000?
Thanks so much for the help and feel free to PM me if you prefer.
It's been 4 years since I've been in the aviation industry and have approximately 750 hours SIC Part 121. I'm looking at Envoy due to having a skeleton in my closet (incident) back from my flight instructing days and would like to have flow as an insurance policy in the event I can't get on elsewhere prior.
I would appreciate some insight in connection to how long it will take the company to displaced me to CA.
Would I at least have a few months on reserve/line to reach the 1,000 hrs to knock of some rust and gain my bearings? Or are they immediately displacing after FO training anybody that's close to the 1,000?
Thanks so much for the help and feel free to PM me if you prefer.
01-12-2018, 07:38 AM
#18
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 188
Originally Posted by OverRadar
Hello all,
It's been 4 years since I've been in the aviation industry and have approximately 750 hours SIC Part 121. I'm looking at Envoy due to having a skeleton in my closet (incident) back from my flight instructing days and would like to have flow as an insurance policy in the event I can't get on elsewhere prior.
I would appreciate some insight in connection to how long it will take the company to displaced me to CA.
Would I at least have a few months on reserve/line to reach the 1,000 hrs to knock of some rust and gain my bearings? Or are they immediately displacing after FO training anybody that's close to the 1,000?
Thanks so much for the help and feel free to PM me if you prefer.
It's been 4 years since I've been in the aviation industry and have approximately 750 hours SIC Part 121. I'm looking at Envoy due to having a skeleton in my closet (incident) back from my flight instructing days and would like to have flow as an insurance policy in the event I can't get on elsewhere prior.
I would appreciate some insight in connection to how long it will take the company to displaced me to CA.
Would I at least have a few months on reserve/line to reach the 1,000 hrs to knock of some rust and gain my bearings? Or are they immediately displacing after FO training anybody that's close to the 1,000?
Thanks so much for the help and feel free to PM me if you prefer.
02-26-2019, 05:13 PM
#20
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Pawn
Posts: 1,138
Originally Posted by FullThrust
With 750 hrs of 121 time, you can plan on flying the line at least ~6 months before you end up back in training after a CA displacement. The company will not displace you to a CA position until you have at least 1000.0 hours on the nose (to answer your question about displacing anyone that's close to the 1000)
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