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Old 02-27-2019 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ag386
DECs make what, 65k?
Hell, they're offering up to a $45k bonus for qualified DEC's.
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Old 02-27-2019 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by EnyFlyr
I heard of a guy at
envoy who had over 1000 hours 121 from over 10 years ago and he actually joined as an FO for a few months then was forced to upgrade. Turns out he failed upgrade twice and was sent back to FO. Not sure if anyone wants that on their record.
I hear ya.

I'm not an arrogant idiot that thinks that just because I've got 1200 hrs SIC in a 727 that I would breeze through a type in a glass cockpit RJ. I'm going to get as much sim or flying as possible before I go to training and work my ass off once there.

I don't take anything for granted.
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Old 02-27-2019 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy68
I hear ya.

I don't take anything for granted.
Smart thinking.
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Old 02-27-2019 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cursesRedBaron
Rookie base question...coming from a former one base shop:
Once you can bid into a base...does that mean you get to keep it?
I mean, at least as long as you want...or bid off of it?
Or, can a senior pilot (in your a/c and seat) push you out of it?
You in theory can be pushed out of it.
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Old 02-27-2019 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamesthunder
You in theory can be pushed out of it.
So...pretty much any pilot above you in seniority could take the base away from you....
Although - I'm guessing - the most likely thing is those with the same a/c and seat who want into that base.
Correct?
Does this sort of thing happen all the time?
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Old 02-27-2019 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cursesRedBaron
So...pretty much any pilot above you in seniority could take the base away from you....
Although - I'm guessing - the most likely thing is those with the same a/c and seat who want into that base.
Correct?
Does this sort of thing happen all the time?
The answer SHOULD be no, it doesn't happen all the time. The company must run a displacement for that to happen. Generally this happens with a base closure or when eliminating a fleet... so not often.

HOWEVER:

The CRJs are leaving by the end of the year and there will be a displacement then.

ALSO, the company has been forcing qualified FOs to upgrade and is treating the forced upgrade like a displacement. This has been happening every three months. If you're a non-qualified FO, this doesn't effect you, you won't be displaced out of base or equipment. But qualified FOs and junior captains are getting displaced from one base or equipment to another.
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Old 02-27-2019 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast

HOWEVER:

The CRJs are leaving by the end of the year and there will be a displacement then.
It'll be interesting to watch what will happen at the bottom of the OCL list when the CRJs go.
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Old 02-28-2019 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
The answer SHOULD be no, it doesn't happen all the time. The company must run a displacement for that to happen. Generally this happens with a base closure or when eliminating a fleet... so not often.

HOWEVER:

The CRJs are leaving by the end of the year and there will be a displacement then.

ALSO, the company has been forcing qualified FOs to upgrade and is treating the forced upgrade like a displacement. This has been happening every three months. If you're a non-qualified FO, this doesn't effect you, you won't be displaced out of base or equipment. But qualified FOs and junior captains are getting displaced from one base or equipment to another.
Forced upgrade FO’s can and have bumped DEC’s out of MIA as a forced upgrade FO (displaced) gets whatever their seniority can hold.

It happened a couple bids ago from memory where some MIA DEC’s got bumped to ORD.
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Old 02-28-2019 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by havick206
Forced upgrade FO’s can and have bumped DEC’s out of MIA as a forced upgrade FO (displaced) gets whatever their seniority can hold.

It happened a couple bids ago from memory where some MIA DEC’s got bumped to ORD.
I don't keep track of the bid results/flow plan to see who all it's happening to and when but I've talked to and flown with several captains who have been displaced from base/equipment. One, about a year ago, wasn't even a DEC.
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Old 03-08-2019 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
I don't keep track of the bid results/flow plan to see who all it's happening to and when but I've talked to and flown with several captains who have been displaced from base/equipment. One, about a year ago, wasn't even a DEC.
That doesn't make sense. I'm all for the seniority rules, but this shouldn't happen.
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