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Old 11-05-2019, 06:12 PM   #1181  
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I think we certainly had more leverage than we do now. But honestly, the biggest concession Iíve seen here in terms of long term damage to our negotiating position has to be letting cadets pick first in class. A tiny incremental pay raise is almost meaningless in comparison. ďGuaranteedĒ 175 slots bring the boys (21 y/o cadets) to the yard, always will.
Envoys strategy is working. Iíve talked to dozens of those guys who are just fine waiting on an 8-10 year flow. Theyíll have a 35 year career at AA.

Iím a newbie, but my goal is to beat the flow by half, to any legacy. Almost every CA Iíve flow with has competitive time, but is content waiting another 1-2 years on the flow.

As much as I donít understand waiting it out (unless youíre a 2016 hire), the marketing strategy works.
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Old 11-06-2019, 03:18 PM   #1182  
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Envoys strategy is working. Iíve talked to dozens of those guys who are just fine waiting on an 8-10 year flow. Theyíll have a 35 year career at AA.

Iím a newbie, but my goal is to beat the flow by half, to any legacy. Almost every CA Iíve flow with has competitive time, but is content waiting another 1-2 years on the flow.

As much as I donít understand waiting it out (unless youíre a 2016 hire), the marketing strategy works.
Jokes on them, we wonít even have 2 pilots in the cockpit in 35 years.
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Old 11-18-2019, 08:20 AM   #1183  
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So what are the drops today?
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Old 11-18-2019, 08:31 AM   #1184  
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so what are the drops today?
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They come from near and afar to fly shiny jet for the envoy
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Some may win in the short term, but everyone gets Envoyed in the end because the house always wins.
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Old 11-19-2019, 09:10 PM   #1187  
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They come from near and afar to fly shiny jet for the envoy
Thatís the first 30 plus class weíve had since July.
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Some may win in the short term, but everyone gets Envoyed in the end because the house always wins.
Yep, very true
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Old 11-21-2019, 02:40 PM   #1189  
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Yep, very true
And.....it's back. I'm surprised you didn't throw out your sales pitch for that crap ACMI you are working for. Envoy is just fine FYI. Notice the new hire class of 30. That's 30 more AA pilots. I know you are jealous of these guys but as of late I'm detecting hints of rage...
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And.....it's back. I'm surprised you didn't throw out your sales pitch for that crap ACMI you are working for. Envoy is just fine FYI. Notice the new hire class of 30. That's 30 more AA pilots. I know you are jealous of these guys but as of late I'm detecting hints of rage...
30 more potential AA pilots in 7-9 years.

Dude, you are a shill. Go back to what ever desk you fly.
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