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08-27-2021 | 07:53 PM
#1611
Line Holder
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08-27-2021 | 09:16 PM
#1613
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08-28-2021 | 12:23 PM
#1615
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145s will be here for a while. I wouldn’t plan on coming here unless you’re ok with getting the 145. Odds of that are even better if you’re not a cadet and/or young.
All FO’s are seat locked to their airplane. The only way you’re switching planes is if you upgrade or get displaced due to a base closure/downsize.
And for what it’s worth, OT opportunities seem to be much more plentiful on the 145, so the potential exists to make more money on it.
All FO’s are seat locked to their airplane. The only way you’re switching planes is if you upgrade or get displaced due to a base closure/downsize.
And for what it’s worth, OT opportunities seem to be much more plentiful on the 145, so the potential exists to make more money on it.
08-31-2021 | 05:13 PM
#1616
On Reserve
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From: Sky Chicken
Non cadets can expect class dates sometime in October. Also, RW mentioned that instead of classes starting every other week, they’ll be starting every week if I remember correctly starting in September.
09-02-2021 | 04:46 AM
#1617
New Hire
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IF you get 175 on day one, my guess is that you could hold MIA 175 FO pretty quickly. IF you get 145 on day one, it will be years before you can hold Miami. FOs can't bid jet to jet here. Only non-upgrade way out is via displacement.
As for how long the 145s will be around. I know Envoy management wants this to be an all 170/175 airline but pre COVID AAG was planning on having the 145s through at least 2025. Last summer we had Envoy management saying we'd never hire into the 145 again. Yet here we are, hiring into the 145 again. I think they're going to be around long enough you can't count on being displaced any time soon.
There's also one other thing to consider for someone coming with prior 121. We are probably a ways off from this being an issue but Envoy can force upgrade qualified FOs and have done so in the past. If it happens again, you'd probably be one of the most junior qualified which would likely mean a forced upgrade to the 145.
As for how long the 145s will be around. I know Envoy management wants this to be an all 170/175 airline but pre COVID AAG was planning on having the 145s through at least 2025. Last summer we had Envoy management saying we'd never hire into the 145 again. Yet here we are, hiring into the 145 again. I think they're going to be around long enough you can't count on being displaced any time soon.
There's also one other thing to consider for someone coming with prior 121. We are probably a ways off from this being an issue but Envoy can force upgrade qualified FOs and have done so in the past. If it happens again, you'd probably be one of the most junior qualified which would likely mean a forced upgrade to the 145.
Let's say I get hired as a 145FO and I get based in Chicago, how long does it take roughly before I have a chance to be based in Miami?
Thanks!
09-02-2021 | 07:19 AM
#1619
Gets Weekends Off
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This was explained in the original response to your question, but you may have missed it with the other information.
MIA has been awarded in several new hire and/or recall classes, so holding the base could happen quickly, if you get 175. Holding a line is going to take much longer. No one can say with any certainty how quickly you could hold a line anywhere as the last 18 months have completely destroyed any data points. It could be four months or two years to be off reserve.
Last edited by pitchattitude; 09-02-2021 at 07:39 AM.
09-02-2021 | 07:23 AM
#1620
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