Envoy Air don’t come here
#114
Gets Weekends Off
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#115
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Always a hot topic. Yes, $1 is customary (with the hope that your whole crew tips) If it's only me and/or one other crew member tipping, then I'll tip more than a buck to make sure the guy or gal is taken care of. But yes, you're absolutely right. Outside of this forum, if you don't tip then you'll be silently judged on your trips by every crew member that does. Just the way it is.
#117
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Envoy. Republic. Skywest. Expressjet. Endeavor
1st ye CA. 66.34. 84.26. 73.68. 69.02. 85.24
MAX CA. 95.69. 136.26. 116.0. 106.11. 118.88
1st ye FO. 38.66. 45.68. 45.0 40.40. 50.66
MAX FO. 40.58. 58.87. 60.50. 48.35. 62.27
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Not really sure what projected flow times are for current new hires however it is long enough for recruitment to no longer be advertising it online as a Perk. (I think) 7-8yrs.
I respect if you still want to show up to class and be at envoy due to base, if you want to bank on flow (not a great guarantee right now), you like envoy or whatever...
It is just that in my opinion, there are better regionals to start your career at the moment.
We are falling behind.
1st ye CA. 66.34. 84.26. 73.68. 69.02. 85.24
MAX CA. 95.69. 136.26. 116.0. 106.11. 118.88
1st ye FO. 38.66. 45.68. 45.0 40.40. 50.66
MAX FO. 40.58. 58.87. 60.50. 48.35. 62.27
——————————————————————————————————
Not really sure what projected flow times are for current new hires however it is long enough for recruitment to no longer be advertising it online as a Perk. (I think) 7-8yrs.
I respect if you still want to show up to class and be at envoy due to base, if you want to bank on flow (not a great guarantee right now), you like envoy or whatever...
It is just that in my opinion, there are better regionals to start your career at the moment.
We are falling behind.
#118
In a land of unicorns
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From: Whale FO
Envoy. Republic. Skywest. Expressjet. Endeavor
1st ye CA. 66.34. 84.26. 73.68. 69.02. 85.24
MAX CA. 95.69. 136.26. 116.0. 106.11. 118.88
1st ye FO. 38.66. 45.68. 45.0 40.40. 50.66
MAX FO. 40.58. 58.87. 60.50. 48.35. 62.27
——————————————————————————————————
Not really sure what projected flow times are for current new hires however it is long enough for recruitment to no longer be advertising it online as a Perk. (I think) 7-8yrs.
I respect if you still want to show up to class and be at envoy due to base, if you want to bank on flow (not a great guarantee right now), you like envoy or whatever...
It is just that in my opinion, there are better regionals to start your career at the moment.
We are falling behind.
1st ye CA. 66.34. 84.26. 73.68. 69.02. 85.24
MAX CA. 95.69. 136.26. 116.0. 106.11. 118.88
1st ye FO. 38.66. 45.68. 45.0 40.40. 50.66
MAX FO. 40.58. 58.87. 60.50. 48.35. 62.27
——————————————————————————————————
Not really sure what projected flow times are for current new hires however it is long enough for recruitment to no longer be advertising it online as a Perk. (I think) 7-8yrs.
I respect if you still want to show up to class and be at envoy due to base, if you want to bank on flow (not a great guarantee right now), you like envoy or whatever...
It is just that in my opinion, there are better regionals to start your career at the moment.
We are falling behind.
By the time you realistically flow (8 years), difference in CA pay is 83/hr vs 93/hr. Peanuts.
And if you add the bonus to the FO rates, the difference isn't that big.
Getting hired a year ahead from your peers would wipe any difference in regional pay. If you're in your 20's with the usual profile, that probably is worth the shot. But that depends on your risk tolerance.
Republic has great work rules, rigs etc. That's where the difference is.
#119
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Those Max CA numbers aren't relevant when they are skewed so badly.
By the time you realistically flow (8 years), difference in CA pay is 83/hr vs 93/hr. Peanuts.
And if you add the bonus to the FO rates, the difference isn't that big.
Republic has great work rules, rigs etc. That's where the difference is.
By the time you realistically flow (8 years), difference in CA pay is 83/hr vs 93/hr. Peanuts.
And if you add the bonus to the FO rates, the difference isn't that big.
Republic has great work rules, rigs etc. That's where the difference is.
There's a reason this company has to force people to upgrade here.
#120
In a land of unicorns
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 7,072
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From: Whale FO
Eh, I get what you mean about the max captain rates not being relevant. But when you look at the junior captain rates... THAT'S a REAL issue. Between the advanced step FOs are paid here and the FO bonuses that are lost with upgrade, you're looking at pay cut when you upgrade here (assuming you're an FO that reads the contract and maximizes pay).
There's a reason this company has to force people to upgrade here.
There's a reason this company has to force people to upgrade here.
Then again - it only affects DECs. Every captain that upgrades is 70 or 73/hr.
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