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Old 04-05-2019, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Naviator View Post
They haven’t taken new FOs for LOSA in over a year. I’ve heard they’re cutting back on this program. In 14 months on the line I’ve never had a LOSA in my jumpseat.
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Old 04-05-2019, 09:27 PM
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As far as I know, they AREN'T cutting back on LOSA. If anything, they're asking us for more observations. It is strange that they haven't hired any new losa pilots lately. They used to do it near the end of every year. I think they hired so many in the past, that they simply just didn't need any new ones. But a lot of losa pilots are either getting tired of it and dropping it, or flowing.
They sent losa pilots an email a month or so back, saying that they were going to open up the losa hiring window again. I'm not sure why they haven't yet, or when they'll open it though.
To answer the question, LOSA is a Line Observation Safety Audit. A LOSA pilot sits in the jumpseat and observes the flight. They make a no fault anonymous report (no crew names or flight number identifying the crew) of any risk, errors, or undesired states that occur during the flight. They aren't just observing crews, they're looking at every aspect of the flight, pilots, ground personnel, ramp, maintenance, ATC, weather, airport conditions, ect... They get paid 1.5 hrs per leg, plus IOE override for each observation done. The catch is, you can't do it on duty days unless it's a scheduled deadhead or at the end of a sequence (so that you won't mess up your legal duty day). So you can either do them on a day off, or after the end of your trip sequence. You do get to list on A passes to go to / from a losa trip, so that can help commuting at the end of a trip.
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Old 04-07-2019, 11:48 AM
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I am commuting to work on a D2 (#1 on stand by because I checked in 24 hours prior) and these couple below me see that the flight is getting full. All of a sudden about hour and half before flight they relist as D1’s. Is this frowned upon or is it a no no?
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Old 04-07-2019, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by EnyFlyr View Post
I am commuting to work on a D2 (#1 on stand by because I checked in 24 hours prior) and these couple below me see that the flight is getting full. All of a sudden about hour and half before flight they relist as D1’s. Is this frowned upon or is it a no no?
If you have D1's to burn, what's wrong with that.
Nothing in the travel guide says you can't do that.
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Old 04-07-2019, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by EnyFlyr View Post
I am commuting to work on a D2 (#1 on stand by because I checked in 24 hours prior) and these couple below me see that the flight is getting full. All of a sudden about hour and half before flight they relist as D1’s. Is this frowned upon or is it a no no?
Is it a chump move? Yes. Is it against the rules? Nope.
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Old 04-07-2019, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Varsity View Post
Over a year on the 145 in all bases except maybe LGA.

The 175 movement is about to hit a road block (go backwards) with the CRJ displacements.

You CANNOT pick your airplane at Envoy. There is a more than 50% chance you will get the 145 or CRJ.
Just out of curiosity, what do you think the impact of the CRJ displacements will be? When will those pilots start their transition?
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Old 04-07-2019, 01:29 PM
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Just out of curiosity, what do you think the impact of the CRJ displacements will be? When will those pilots start their transition?
The CRJ pilots won’t have a huge impact. There are roughly 70 captains and 60 FOs. 15-20 captains will flow by year’s end. And as far as hurting anyone’s relative seniority, almost all but a few non flowing captains are relatively junior.

When it happens has not been publicly statues but probably won’t happen until the fleet stops flying, just in case there are further snafus in the transfer. But since PSA now makes more than Envoy, hiring won’t be an issue for them, just training.
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Old 04-07-2019, 05:14 PM
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Is it a chump move? Yes. Is it against the rules? Nope.
Eh, that's what D1s are for. I'd only be really peeved if a D1 was used to hop over another pilot for the last jumpseat on the plane.
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Old 04-08-2019, 04:07 AM
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Is it a chump move? Yes. Is it against the rules? Nope.
I agree, but it happens. Thankfully D1's are limited and if they want to burn them for that, so be it. I have used a D1 while in uniform before and had another non rev come up to me and say they are only for vacation or non-work travel. I laughed.
Eh, that's what D1s are for. I'd only be really peeved if a D1 was used to hop over another pilot for the last jumpseat on the plane.
Seen this happen before as well but ironically the person thought they could jump an AA pilot. I laughed.
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Old 04-08-2019, 02:30 PM
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For flying that overlaps your recurrent training, are entire trips dropped (like DTS) or just the part of the trips that overlap your training schedule?
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