Envoy 2019
#802
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Joined APC: Jan 2013
Posts: 294
As far as I know, they AREN'T cutting back on LOSA. If anything, they're asking us for more observations. It is strange that they haven't hired any new losa pilots lately. They used to do it near the end of every year. I think they hired so many in the past, that they simply just didn't need any new ones. But a lot of losa pilots are either getting tired of it and dropping it, or flowing.
They sent losa pilots an email a month or so back, saying that they were going to open up the losa hiring window again. I'm not sure why they haven't yet, or when they'll open it though.
To answer the question, LOSA is a Line Observation Safety Audit. A LOSA pilot sits in the jumpseat and observes the flight. They make a no fault anonymous report (no crew names or flight number identifying the crew) of any risk, errors, or undesired states that occur during the flight. They aren't just observing crews, they're looking at every aspect of the flight, pilots, ground personnel, ramp, maintenance, ATC, weather, airport conditions, ect... They get paid 1.5 hrs per leg, plus IOE override for each observation done. The catch is, you can't do it on duty days unless it's a scheduled deadhead or at the end of a sequence (so that you won't mess up your legal duty day). So you can either do them on a day off, or after the end of your trip sequence. You do get to list on A passes to go to / from a losa trip, so that can help commuting at the end of a trip.
They sent losa pilots an email a month or so back, saying that they were going to open up the losa hiring window again. I'm not sure why they haven't yet, or when they'll open it though.
To answer the question, LOSA is a Line Observation Safety Audit. A LOSA pilot sits in the jumpseat and observes the flight. They make a no fault anonymous report (no crew names or flight number identifying the crew) of any risk, errors, or undesired states that occur during the flight. They aren't just observing crews, they're looking at every aspect of the flight, pilots, ground personnel, ramp, maintenance, ATC, weather, airport conditions, ect... They get paid 1.5 hrs per leg, plus IOE override for each observation done. The catch is, you can't do it on duty days unless it's a scheduled deadhead or at the end of a sequence (so that you won't mess up your legal duty day). So you can either do them on a day off, or after the end of your trip sequence. You do get to list on A passes to go to / from a losa trip, so that can help commuting at the end of a trip.
#803
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 177
I am commuting to work on a D2 (#1 on stand by because I checked in 24 hours prior) and these couple below me see that the flight is getting full. All of a sudden about hour and half before flight they relist as D1’s. Is this frowned upon or is it a no no?
#804
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,494
Nothing in the travel guide says you can't do that.
#805
Is it a chump move? Yes. Is it against the rules? Nope.
#806
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Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 194
Just out of curiosity, what do you think the impact of the CRJ displacements will be? When will those pilots start their transition?
#807
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When it happens has not been publicly statues but probably won’t happen until the fleet stops flying, just in case there are further snafus in the transfer. But since PSA now makes more than Envoy, hiring won’t be an issue for them, just training.
#808
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#809
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
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I agree, but it happens. Thankfully D1's are limited and if they want to burn them for that, so be it. I have used a D1 while in uniform before and had another non rev come up to me and say they are only for vacation or non-work travel. I laughed.
Seen this happen before as well but ironically the person thought they could jump an AA pilot. I laughed.
Eh, that's what D1s are for. I'd only be really peeved if a D1 was used to hop over another pilot for the last jumpseat on the plane.
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