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04-29-2019 | 02:57 PM

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Cyio

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Originally Posted by Jackson28

I think part of the problem is that all the Union guys in charge, making decisions for the whole pilot group is close to flowing. Why would they upset Management when they could possibly risk repercussions.

The answer is they won't. Food for thought.

I don’t think this is accurate or fair. Just because you don’t see any action doesn’t mean there isn’t any. When is the last time you have gone down to the MEC office?

04-29-2019 | 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BigZ

Don't forget that runs somewhat behind, figure 7500 tops the second year. And then you upgrade.

Yep, I was nearly half way into my second year before I even saw a retention bonus. This, combined with force upgrades makes the $20K retention bonus a bit of false advertising by the recruiters.

04-29-2019 | 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by highfarfast

Yep, I was nearly half way into my second year before I even saw a retention bonus.

So as a Jan 2018 new hire should I even expect a retention bonus? Are they still being given? If so, about when will it show on epay?

04-29-2019 | 04:02 PM

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So as a Jan 2018 new hire should I even expect a retention bonus? Are they still being given? If so, about when will it show on epay?

You should see your first bonus in June, you started in Jan so your timer starts at the 2nd quarter bonus since the first was already underway. You'll still get 8 quarters' worth of bonuses, assuming you don't upgrade before they expire. You'll see it pop up in epays towards the end of June.

04-29-2019 | 04:12 PM

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Thanks!

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04-29-2019 | 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dera

Does that include the $10,000 retention bonus that Envoy FO gets?

FO’s don’t get a 10k retention bonus year 2. It is 7500 or 5000 depending on when you get hired.

04-29-2019 | 06:23 PM

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He was talking about 2nd year FO pay rates. Is there a 2nd year FO who wasn't lucky to get bonuses as a new hire?

Yes I upgraded at 18 months in. That included flying the 1000 hours needed

04-29-2019 | 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by havick206

Yes I upgraded at 18 months in. That included flying the 1000 hours needed

18 months and you didn't get a penny in bonuses during your 2nd year?
I'd email pay comp and complain.

04-29-2019 | 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dera

18 months and you didn't get a penny in bonuses during your 2nd year?
I'd email pay comp and complain.

Is it that surprising to you? Read the terms.

I got my first retention bonus on my 17th month. All in line with the terms. Now that's not exactly how it was presented to me when I was 'recruited' but as long as I had an opportunity to receive all 8 checks, I think that I could live with that even with a delay in payment.

However, with the forced upgrades and no bonus if you're captain, there's no way to collect on all 8. None. Telling new-hires they'll get $20k in retention bonuses is criminal.

04-29-2019 | 07:12 PM

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18 months and you didn't get a penny in bonuses during your 2nd year?
I'd email pay comp and complain.

Of course I got some. Just saying that for people that factor in getting the entire amount over time, it won’t pan out that way.

Unless of course you hide out and don’t fly