Envoy vs. PSA | Pay Rate Comparison
06-01-2019, 05:03 PM
#45
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 141
Originally Posted by UnprotectdPilot
While our negotiating committee is out busy flying the system because we are short-staffed on captains, I just wanted to post this "public service announcement" (
) that PSA pilots are earning more than us. You know, the ones that have historically undercut repeatedly?
Anyway, this doesn't account for Envoy pay banding, SAP, work rules, etc. that would also make Envoy a less desirable place to work, but you get the idea:
#FUPM
#MEGA
) that PSA pilots are earning more than us. You know, the ones that have historically undercut repeatedly?Anyway, this doesn't account for Envoy pay banding, SAP, work rules, etc. that would also make Envoy a less desirable place to work, but you get the idea:
#FUPM
#MEGA
. We know you meant well by starting this thread. Your disclaimer regarding not including pay banding, etc shows that you’re not well versed on how the current Envoy pay model works. Likely confused as the company is also.
As has been suggested, you’re better off just showing the E145 CA rates for CA pay comparison purposes.
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06-01-2019, 07:52 PM
#46
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Pawn
Posts: 1,138
There aren’t going to be any pay rates coming. PSA just agreed to a new deal with the flight attendants as well and apparently they have gotten some good gains. Including min day guarantee, six paid holidays, and other items. AAG is just screwing with PDT and ENY now. It’s time to embrace the horror and start making song requests to the string quartet on the deck of the Titanic. PSA is the golden child, and the rest are just skid marks and grundle juice.
06-01-2019, 08:02 PM
#47
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,471
I loved this one;
An entitled new hire cadet(already ****ed off about his 145 seat) during indoc why PSA got the pay and Envoy didn't. An union guy said "it's because of you. If you weren't here, we would get them too".
Boom.
An entitled new hire cadet(already ****ed off about his 145 seat) during indoc why PSA got the pay and Envoy didn't. An union guy said "it's because of you. If you weren't here, we would get them too".
Boom.
06-01-2019, 08:25 PM
#48
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Position: EMB-145
Posts: 196
Jet blue E190 first year CA pay 189 a hour. Pretty crazy how low we are willing to accept minimum wage to
Do the same job. Please wake me up from this nightmare.
All new hire FO’s you make 37.90 an hour to fly a 170/190. They are making 90 hr at JB. If you are going to commute, do it for
Real money.
Do the same job. Please wake me up from this nightmare.
All new hire FO’s you make 37.90 an hour to fly a 170/190. They are making 90 hr at JB. If you are going to commute, do it for
Real money.
06-01-2019, 08:55 PM
#49
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Joined APC: Oct 2018
Posts: 183
Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
There aren’t going to be any pay rates coming. PSA just agreed to a new deal with the flight attendants as well and apparently they have gotten some good gains. Including min day guarantee, six paid holidays, and other items. AAG is just screwing with PDT and ENY now. It’s time to embrace the horror and start making song requests to the string quartet on the deck of the Titanic. PSA is the golden child, and the rest are just skid marks and grundle juice.
06-03-2019, 02:08 AM
#50
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 2,522
Originally Posted by dera
I loved this one;
An entitled new hire cadet(already ****ed off about his 145 seat) during indoc why PSA got the pay and Envoy didn't. An union guy said "it's because of you. If you weren't here, we would get them too".
Boom.
An entitled new hire cadet(already ****ed off about his 145 seat) during indoc why PSA got the pay and Envoy didn't. An union guy said "it's because of you. If you weren't here, we would get them too".
Boom.
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