New LOAs out.
07-28-2019 | 04:48 PM
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Blended rates are in aircraft that have the same type rating. On the CRJs for instance, instead of paying one rate when a 200 is flown and a higher rate when a 900 is flown, a percentage of 200s vs 900s is averaged and that rate is paid across the board. Makes things simpler.
United flies the 757 and 767. Same type rating. 75s have one rate and 76 200&300 and 76-400s each have different rates. Significantly so. 767-400 trips go very senior because of it. True for captains and FOs.
Envoy does not have different aircraft that share the same type.
That being said, I think the whole pay band thing is bogus. While there is the statement on APC about it, it is clear that even most of the Envoy pilots still don’t understand what it really means and sure don’t have any idea how many people receive it or when they are eligible.
Until this current set of pay changes, 145 FOs actually made more because of the higher sign on bonus. Explain that one. SNJ is more popular. Supply and demand. Doesn’t have anything to do with size of the aircraft. Maybe that should be taken into account with the pay rates.
United flies the 757 and 767. Same type rating. 75s have one rate and 76 200&300 and 76-400s each have different rates. Significantly so. 767-400 trips go very senior because of it. True for captains and FOs.
Envoy does not have different aircraft that share the same type.
That being said, I think the whole pay band thing is bogus. While there is the statement on APC about it, it is clear that even most of the Envoy pilots still don’t understand what it really means and sure don’t have any idea how many people receive it or when they are eligible.
Until this current set of pay changes, 145 FOs actually made more because of the higher sign on bonus. Explain that one. SNJ is more popular. Supply and demand. Doesn’t have anything to do with size of the aircraft. Maybe that should be taken into account with the pay rates.
07-28-2019 | 06:51 PM
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Why dont you use that when you flow to aa and let us know how it worked out
07-28-2019 | 06:59 PM
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07-29-2019 | 03:35 AM
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Hands off my pay son. We aren’t socialist here. Don’t rob from the rich and give to the poor. Seniority!
07-29-2019 | 07:09 AM
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07-29-2019 | 07:29 AM
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07-29-2019 | 07:41 AM
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5 year wait for the bandaid to come off. The retention bonus, loa 19.01 as of now is cancelled, the pay rate increase is the 30 day notification. Anyone hired after July 1 2019 will get no retention bonus, those who are hired prior to that date will get one more payment as retention bonus. That's it. Your retention bonus was your new pay rate increase so now you get it every paycheck. You dont think pay raise and retention bonus was going to be what you got, do you.
One or the other.
One or the other.
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