Increase Flow in Exchange for PBS
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Not necessarily on the hook for PBS per se. PBS was already being negotiated prior to the last concessionary TA. The TA and resultant LOA stipulates that the PBS negotiations would be suspended until the 41st delivery. At that point, the PBS Working Group would restart and finalize the negotiations of the specifics of PBS. Once that process starts, they have 120 days to finalize it. Once the details are hashed out, the pilot group would vote on whether or not to green light PBS. In the event PBS is voted down by the pilot group, the company gets 8-9 million dollars in concessions elsewhere. So in essence, should the company decide to dust off this part of the concessionary contract, the pilot group can accept PBS or take significant concessions. But in this environment of looking everywhere and anywhere to find pilots and throwing more and more money to try to fix the staffing woes, the company knows they cannot come after the pilot group for concessions. That's why PBS hasn't been brought up by the company. But they absolutely can pull that trigger at any time.
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Ok let see envoy do that, news on forums wouln be envoy took 8 million in pay away from pilots, let's see how that recruitment goes then. At that point the mec should sue envoy on the bonuses being paid to new hires to pay accordingly to the 8 million.
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And this is why the company has no interest in discussing PBS. The company told ALPA years ago they don't want to discuss it. The guy who started this thread is the one who brought it up. Not the company or ALPA.
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Not necessarily on the hook for PBS per se. PBS was already being negotiated prior to the last concessionary TA. The TA and resultant LOA stipulates that the PBS negotiations would be suspended until the 41st delivery. At that point, the PBS Working Group would restart and finalize the negotiations of the specifics of PBS. Once that process starts, they have 120 days to finalize it. Once the details are hashed out, the pilot group would vote on whether or not to green light PBS. In the event PBS is voted down by the pilot group, the company gets 8-9 million dollars in concessions elsewhere. So in essence, should the company decide to dust off this part of the concessionary contract, the pilot group can accept PBS or take significant concessions. But in this environment of looking everywhere and anywhere to find pilots and throwing more and more money to try to fix the staffing woes, the company knows they cannot come after the pilot group for concessions. That's why PBS hasn't been brought up by the company. But they absolutely can pull that trigger at any time.
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13-04 says "ratification of a PBS LOA, in accordance with ALPA administrative policies, will be required prior to EGL implementing any PBS for the purpose of constructing and awarding pilot monthly schedules"
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8.6 million annually unless that number dropped after the second bankruptcy agreement.
But suffice to say glad it was deferred till after the 40th because it turned into a pilots market before that point and they would have gladly taken that money in 14 and 15.
But suffice to say glad it was deferred till after the 40th because it turned into a pilots market before that point and they would have gladly taken that money in 14 and 15.
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