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Old 03-07-2020 | 05:42 AM
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Old 03-07-2020 | 06:24 AM
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Old 03-07-2020 | 11:29 PM
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Old 03-08-2020 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
Yes, everybody up to and including the 824 had AA seniority numbers while still at Eagle and carried over some time. We were all in the AA $uper$aver 401k back then too... not the Eaglevoy red headed stepchild 401k plan. ICE benefits went away post bankruptcy and then came back in the current limited fashion.

They need to restore the 50% flow. That’s what had pilots coming to Eaglevoy, not 17%

Better yet, let AA HR do the hiring at Eaglevoy and bump the flow up to 60%.
The 824 did NOT get AA seniority numbers while at Envoy, they did carry longevity, but did not have AA numbers.
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Old 03-09-2020 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by paulhood
The 824 did NOT get AA seniority numbers while at Envoy, they did carry longevity, but did not have AA numbers.
longevity for pay at AA?
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Old 03-09-2020 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
longevity for pay at AA?
As I recall, the got company longevity for vacation, 401K, non-rev, etc. They did not get longevity pay as pilots. The group that went just before the 824 did get some form of longevity for pay. That’s all from memory though, so take it for what it’s worth.
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Old 03-10-2020 | 08:15 AM
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My numbers may be off a little, as it's been a long time.

Under the original Supplement W agreement, when an eagle pilot completed OE on the RJ, they were placed on the AA seniority list, as if they had attended the next new hire class after they checked out. But came to AA on first year pay.

The first 125 had an 18 month training lock at Eagle. They flowed to AA on first year pay, but they kept their AMR "company hire date" for vacation accrual and some other benefits.

Then 9/11 happened, and the flow stopped.

Over the years, there were several grievances filed on both sides. One of those, Eagle ALPA argued that TWA pilots who were furloughed from TWA LLC, without ever attending indoc at AA should be considered as new hires, for the purpose of the agreement. And when they were recalled to AA in 2008, there should have been 50% flow throughs in those classes. The arbitrator agreed with that.

The remedy for that grievance created the "286" and the "824". The "286" flowed to AA starting in 2011, but their pay dates were in 2008, when the arbitrator said they should have been allowed to flow with the TWA recalls.

The "286" came to AA on 4th year pay, fully vested in the A fund, the company owed them 3 years of B fund contributions, at S80 FO reserve pay. They also kept their AMR company seniority, so they had five weeks of vacation, and carried their short term sick banks over.

I believe the 824 kept their AMR company seniority, and carried the sick banks over as well, but started on first year pay.
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Old 03-10-2020 | 09:11 AM
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The 125 had bidding seniority in new hire class, didn’t they?
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Old 03-10-2020 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by at6d
The 125 had bidding seniority in new hire class, didn’t they?
When the 125 actually got to AA, they had 18 months of bidding seniority at AA (10 years+ for the 824, but that was pretty much on the bottom at that point).
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Old 03-10-2020 | 01:52 PM
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So I just read that AA has followed suit with UA and our off new hire classes.
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