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Envoy 2021: A New Hope

Old 07-29-2021 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by vikaask
Beats waiting till February for SKW
Yeah. But are you sure?
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Old 07-29-2021 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CLE to IAH
Yeah. But are you sure?
Lord knows, the faster class is killer in terms of seniority and progressing towards an upgrade. I'm not convinced at all by the flow, so I plan on getting in and getting out, regardless of where I go
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Old 07-29-2021 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by vikaask
Appreciate the detailed response. I wouldn't mind that kind of timeframe. I'll talk to my recruiter today and see if I can get a better idea. They told our interview class yesterday to expect a class sometime in October!
Random people in an anonymous internet chat is the second worst place to get reliable info on an airline. Recruiters are by far the worst.

That said, as mentioned above, you should be able to get DFW based as an FO in fairly short order. There is projected to be lots of movement on both aircraft so I’d be surprised if it takes more than 4-5 months for you to get DFW. It would likely be less.

Things can always change of course.
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Old 07-29-2021 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by But seriously
Random people in an anonymous internet chat is the second worst place to get reliable info on an airline. Recruiters are by far the worst.

That said, as mentioned above, you should be able to get DFW based as an FO in fairly short order. There is projected to be lots of movement on both aircraft so I’d be surprised if it takes more than 4-5 months for you to get DFW. It would likely be less.

Things can always change of course.
Definitely agree with you there, I'm basically in the data acquisition stage, regardless of veracity. I'll put it all side-by-side and make a more educated decision between the offers I have. Regardless, I take everything I hear with a grain of salt!

That's good to know about the movement within the airline. In your opinion, how does that movement affect upgrade times? Thanks
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Old 07-29-2021 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by vikaask
Lord knows, the faster class is killer in terms of seniority and progressing towards an upgrade. I'm not convinced at all by the flow, so I plan on getting in and getting out, regardless of where I go
a bit tongue in cheek, as I worked for envoy and didn’t absolutely hate it but…. Even though they have a lot of goobers, SKYW might be a better shot right now than eny. Even with that 6 months considered.

do what you want and obviously what’s best for you, but go where you will hate life the least, should you get stuck there longer than you intended.

Oh well. Just my opinion. As they say, opinions are like (you know….. the thing)
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Old 07-29-2021 | 04:31 PM
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Appreciate the advice! Got a lot to think about in the coming weeks
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Old 07-29-2021 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by vikaask
Definitely agree with you there, I'm basically in the data acquisition stage, regardless of veracity. I'll put it all side-by-side and make a more educated decision between the offers I have. Regardless, I take everything I hear with a grain of salt!

That's good to know about the movement within the airline. In your opinion, how does that movement affect upgrade times? Thanks
I think upgrade times across the entire regional industry are going to be way shorter than they should be. ENY will be no different. If I had to guess, I’d say it’ll be back to “as soon as you get your 950 hours” by the time you are ready to upgrade. That is a WAG of course.
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Old 07-30-2021 | 04:40 AM
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To me, and I wish I'd known this before I interviewed at the regionals, the biggest difference between SKYW and us is that the SKYW people walk around with smiles on their faces. Everyone here is pretty miserable, rock bottom morale, sitting in our dead silent crew room pulling their masks up whenever someone new walks in. Plenty to speculate about here, a lot of people suggest that it's kool aid drinking over at SKYW and maybe it is to some extent but it's also something else. As an Envoy pilot I'll tell you, it's fatiguing always working with people who hate their jobs.
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Old 07-30-2021 | 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
To me, and I wish I'd known this before I interviewed at the regionals, the biggest difference between SKYW and us is that the SKYW people walk around with smiles on their faces. Everyone here is pretty miserable, rock bottom morale, sitting in our dead silent crew room pulling their masks up whenever someone new walks in. Plenty to speculate about here, a lot of people suggest that it's kool aid drinking over at SKYW and maybe it is to some extent but it's also something else. As an Envoy pilot I'll tell you, it's fatiguing always working with people who hate their jobs.
“Beatings will continue until morale improves!”

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Old 07-30-2021 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by aewhistleblower
“Beatings will continue until morale improves!”

Love, Management
Also known as ”We’re not happy, til you’re not happy.”
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