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CLE to IAH 02-06-2021 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3191623)
Or you could take the easy way out and just wear the mask.

that’s not the issue here and you know it.

ClappedOut145 02-06-2021 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3191647)
that’s not the issue here and you know it.

He’s a MESA pilot. So he has no frame of reference here. He’s like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know...

highfarfast 02-06-2021 07:50 PM

I've been telling FAs for some time I would like the door closed because masks in the cockpit is inappropriate and I don't want ignorant Karen's making complaints. Every single FA. None of them has argued, most forget a lot. One or two wanted to know 'why' and I showed them our union email from when it was fist communicated to us that some FAs are making complaints.

If one actually tried to take a picture of me after giving such a brief... they wouldn't be flying with me any more.

Inclined plane 02-07-2021 05:22 AM

Envoy 2021: A New Hope
 
My technique is such that I go masks on in the flight deck when pax start to board. When the close-out and pax count is received, masks come off (if my FO or co-captain agree). Restroom break in flight? Masks on till complete. Then, I go masks off chugging a cold brew at the overnight. No weird tone set with my crew by keeping door shut. No opportunity for pictures taken of me maskless at work, or any reason created unintentionally by me for anyone to be out to get me. (Miss me with that BS) Try it. It works.


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Inclined plane 02-07-2021 06:30 AM

I just go headsets off most of the time anyways, so when it’s time for a weezer break, I just put the mask back on while the FA is chaperoning me till slick gets back in the seat and door is closed up again.


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captive apple 02-07-2021 07:00 AM

Maybe leverage this pandemic to get FAs out of the cockpit.

ClappedOut145 02-07-2021 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by captive apple (Post 3191873)
Maybe leverage this pandemic to get FAs out of the cockpit.

Or maybe make the FA’s cadets, pay for their flight training, give them all the perks, and any some point give them two type ratings so that they can tell us how they are now in charge because they are dual qualified.

GroundPointNine 02-07-2021 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3191898)
Or maybe make the FA’s cadets, pay for their flight training, give them all the perks, and any some point give them two type ratings so that they can tell us how they are now in charge because they are dual qualified.

RN and RW just exchanged a text message saying “They’re on to us”.

Freighthotdog 02-07-2021 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3191898)
Or maybe make the FA’s cadets, pay for their flight training, give them all the perks, and any some point give them two type ratings so that they can tell us how they are now in charge because they are dual qualified.


Had a FA come in the flight deck and tell me to call operations to take the PCA off and start the APU ASAP. Let’s just say that trip didn’t end well

ClappedOut145 02-07-2021 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by Freighthotdog (Post 3191945)
Had a FA come in the flight deck and tell me to call operations to take the PCA off and start the APU ASAP. Let’s just say that trip didn’t end well

That ranks right up there with an offline jumpseater plunking his stuff down and saying “I’m up here” without even a thought in the world about asking for a ride.

dera 02-07-2021 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3191954)
That ranks right up there with an offline jumpseater plunking his stuff down and saying “I’m up here” without even a thought in the world about asking for a ride.

Or the CRJ FO who rode mainline jumpseat and gave them a debrief on what they could improve on after the flight.

uavking 02-07-2021 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3191954)
That ranks right up there with an offline jumpseater plunking his stuff down and saying “I’m up here” without even a thought in the world about asking for a ride.

SkyBest guys seem to be the worst offenders on that, especially with listing D6 and chilling in their cabin seat without saying a word. Don't forget to check the PALL to a. Make sure guys get on b. Police up entitled geniuses.

aewhistleblower 02-07-2021 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3191961)
Or the CRJ FO who rode mainline jumpseat and gave them a debrief on what they could improve on after the flight.

SB even asked the sim instructor during training “how could he be teaching him in the sim without a cfi” I’ve heard that story from the horse’s mouth during recurrent. I feel sorry for the poor fos in dfw that have to fly with this tool.

Swakid8 02-07-2021 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3191961)
Or the CRJ FO who rode mainline jumpseat and gave them a debrief on what they could improve on after the flight.

Ah man, that name sounds familiar lol

Cyio 02-07-2021 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3191961)
Or the CRJ FO who rode mainline jumpseat and gave them a debrief on what they could improve on after the flight.

This just blows my mind lol. I couldn’t even imagine. I mean, how much of a narcissistic prick do you have to be for this to sound like a good idea?

dera 02-07-2021 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3192076)
This just blows my mind lol. I couldn’t even imagine. I mean, how much of a narcissistic prick do you have to be for this to sound like a good idea?

He is now a 175 CA.

Cyio 02-07-2021 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3192100)
He is now a 175 CA.

Glad I won’t ever have to fly with him.

Varsity 02-07-2021 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3192100)
He is now a 175 CA.

The union should decertify for 24hrs and allow management to purge these people wholesale.

This company has an unbelievable number of head cases for its size.

AeroEnvoy 02-07-2021 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3192100)
He is now a 175 CA.

I thought he was at Allegiant.

IamEssential 02-07-2021 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by AeroEnvoy (Post 3192106)
I thought he was at Allegiant.

Wow, this was actually a true story then? We need more details.

uavking 02-07-2021 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by AeroEnvoy (Post 3192106)
I thought he was at Allegiant.

The answer is on the latest seniority list under DCL...

aewhistleblower 02-07-2021 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by AeroEnvoy (Post 3192106)
I thought he was at Allegiant.

I think you’re getting confused with RM, also known as sun dodger. He was on the crj as well

AeroEnvoy 02-07-2021 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by aewhistleblower (Post 3192143)
I think you’re getting confused with RM, also known as sun dodger. He was on the crj as well

Yup that’s him. Was he not the same guy that debriefed the the crew when jumpseating?

BigZ 02-07-2021 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by AeroEnvoy (Post 3192145)
Yup that’s him. Was he not the same guy that debriefed the the crew when jumpseating?

No, different guy.

Cyio 02-08-2021 03:13 AM


Originally Posted by aewhistleblower (Post 3192143)
I think you’re getting confused with RM, also known as sun dodger. He was on the crj as well

Sun dodger? I’ve got to hear this one too now lol.

AeroEnvoy 02-08-2021 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3192161)
Sun dodger? I’ve got to hear this one too now lol.

This CRJ FO took the controls from his captain while flying and made this abrupt evasive maneuver claiming he thought the sun was an incoming airplane.

buddies8 02-08-2021 07:54 AM

Sounds like a vision problem combined with neurological issue.

aewhistleblower 02-15-2021 03:41 PM

Weak email from our union!

Do they have patience with us when we miss their calls? They PG our asses.

ClappedOut145 02-15-2021 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by aewhistleblower (Post 3195519)
Weak email from our union!

Do they have patience with us when we miss their calls? They PG our asses.

Probably trying to get people to not be stupid on social media. The training hotel debacle is probably keeping everyone busy as well

aewhistleblower 02-15-2021 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3195527)
Probably trying to get people to not be stupid on social media. The training hotel debacle is probably keeping everyone busy as well

At this point if you’re not aware of the social media “policy” you’re indeed stupid.

martyByrde 02-15-2021 06:53 PM

How pathetic is it, the company waited until the end of the day to release everyone after freezing their a$&es off at the training hotel. So f$&king dumb. “Go home, if you can.” There aren’t any flights left to go home on. *eyeroll*

Cyio 02-16-2021 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by martyByrde (Post 3195573)
How pathetic is it, the company waited until the end of the day to release everyone after freezing their a$&es off at the training hotel. So f$&king dumb. “Go home, if you can.” There aren’t any flights left to go home on. *eyeroll*

It is my understanding that there are crews at out stations with nothing on their schedules, some having to buy their own hotel rooms, some needing to rent cars/trucks, food not available etc. Chaos really.

CS resorting to using personal cell phones to contact pilots shows how desperate they are. I am not defending them, AA should really have backup generators at their SoC and CS offices. It would seem almost irresponsible NOT to have backup generators.

ClappedOut145 02-16-2021 06:54 AM

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What an absolutely dreadful showing by the company. Reading the base page for DFW makes me have zero faith in who is running multiple departments. Telling crews across the entire network to figure it out on their own is just pathetic. Treat others the way you would want to be treated...

Varsity 02-16-2021 07:15 AM

Completely pathetic.

A dangerous situation in these hotels without power with pilots afraid to leave for a MA.

Management needs to be held accountable for this. JE especially if the rumors are true.

captive apple 02-16-2021 07:15 AM

Shame on you ClappedOut145 that is a real person in the snow. Your experience was nothing like that and you’ve lost all sympathy.

aewhistleblower 02-16-2021 07:22 AM

https://i.ibb.co/xHhfFn8/DD2-D7247-8...3-A0273153.jpg

Crimson5 02-16-2021 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 3195686)
Completely pathetic.

A dangerous situation in these hotels without power with pilots afraid to leave for a MA.

Management needs to be held accountable for this. JE especially if the rumors are true.

Well don’t leave us hanging on the rumors.

martyByrde 02-16-2021 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 3195686)
JE especially if the rumors are true.

Go on.....

highfarfast 02-16-2021 08:46 AM

I find this all crazy fascinating. How in the world SOC doesn't have backup generators is beyond me. For those you who haven't been, Dispatch, MOC, Crew Scheduling, etc... they're all in one big room. That's a pretty dang important important chunk of the company.

Also, I'd always assumed hotels had backup generators. Can't remember ever having power issues at a hotel before. Ever.

The grocery store I worked at when I was in high school a few decades ago, it had a backup generator. But Envoy SOC?


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