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Cyio 02-16-2021 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 3195686)
Completely pathetic.

A dangerous situation in these hotels without power with pilots afraid to leave for a MA.

Management needs to be held accountable for this. JE especially if the rumors are true.

What’s the deal with JE? Can’t just toss that out and walk away. PM if you must lol.

highfarfast 02-16-2021 09:00 AM

I can't even figure out who JE is.

Throwitaway 02-16-2021 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3195737)
I can't even figure out who JE is.

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/14BD5/pro...-681946576.jpg


The guy on the left.

martyByrde 02-16-2021 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3195737)
I can't even figure out who JE is.

Director of Envoy Crew Scheduling.

aewhistleblower 02-16-2021 09:54 AM

JE must be held responsible for this complete disaster!!

CptnDave 02-16-2021 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by Throwitaway (Post 3195740)

This is the best thing I’ve seen today 😂

Seneca Pilot 02-16-2021 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by Throwitaway (Post 3195740)


No you got the wrong guy it's the guy on the left.

https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/i...?itok=KA0dFOQm

martyByrde 02-16-2021 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by aewhistleblower (Post 3195752)
JE must be held responsible for this complete disaster!!

who has the JE rumors? Let’s it hear it.

havick206 02-16-2021 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by aewhistleblower (Post 3195752)
JE must be held responsible for this complete disaster!!

Really? Nothing will happen.

acecrackshot 02-16-2021 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by captive apple (Post 3195687)
Shame on you ClappedOut145 that is a real person in the snow. Your experience was nothing like that and you’ve lost all sympathy.

Shame on you and your ilk for killing humor and satire.

Every time some concern troll opens their mouth I just eye roll that much harder.

ninerdriver 02-16-2021 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by acecrackshot (Post 3195871)
Every time some concern troll opens their mouth I just eye roll that much harder.

He's not a concern troll, he's a troll troll. Don't mind him.

rld1k 02-17-2021 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by 4myfamily (Post 3196146)
Good morning Envoy pilots. I am captain at Endeavor and want to share this opportunity with all of you since you have a large DFW base.

If you are into the stock market this would be well worth you time to attend.

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/m...nt-dallas.html


I went to this site to see what this actually is and clicked on a video. Some woman talking for 40 minutes about how she talks to god by seeing comets at night. Lmao

Cyio 02-17-2021 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by coodrough568 (Post 3196254)
Very lovely email from the MEC. Once again, never do anything to try and benefit the company.

Care to elaborate? Some may not have access right now.

AeroEnvoy 02-17-2021 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3196259)
Care to elaborate? Some may not have access right now.

The union offered to help the company by finding volunteers to repo planes to MIA. The company then decided to give the repo assignments to management pilots and since CS now had a list of the volunteers they were given reassignments with overnights and lost days. When the volunteers declined the reassignment they were given PGs despite the fact that they volunteered on their days off to help out in good faith.

martyByrde 02-17-2021 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by coodrough568 (Post 3196254)
Very lovely email from the MEC. Once again, never do anything to try and benefit the company.

Is anyone really surprised though? This company is always doing shady stuff.

CLE to IAH 02-17-2021 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by coodrough568 (Post 3196278)
That’s all correct. But don’t forget the best details about how several crews drove through the snow and ice to get there, having already been assigned, only to go to the plane and see the management pilots in the flight deck. THEN when they called scheduling they were assigned lost days. At which point they refused and CS went down the list of volunteers, assigning PG’s to anyone who refused.

that’s among the dirtiest stuff I’ve ever seen.

buddies8 02-17-2021 05:00 PM

Live and learn, guess this place has an impediment to learning.

But seriously 02-17-2021 05:12 PM

I haven’t seen an MEC email on this. Did it only go out to DFW pilots?

aewhistleblower 02-17-2021 09:11 PM

What the f* is going on with these pilots, why would ever volunteer for this company? I learned this “lesson” on my first months at the voy.

"There's an old saying in Tennessee—I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee—that says, 'Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me—you can't get fooled again.'"

AeroEnvoy 02-17-2021 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by aewhistleblower (Post 3196467)
What the f* is going on with these pilots, why would ever volunteer for this company? I learned this “lesson” on my first months at the voy.

"There's an old saying in Tennessee—I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee—that says, 'Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me—you can't get fooled again.'"

Some of these pilots weren’t necessarily doing it to help the company. They were doing it in hopes that it would help out stranded pilots who needed planes to get back to base. The company used their good deed to their advantage. But you are right, hopefully lesson learned and we think twice about doing anything that benefits the company from here on.

4myfamily 02-18-2021 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by rld1k (Post 3196250)
I went to this site to see what this actually is and clicked on a video. Some woman talking for 40 minutes about how she talks to god by seeing comets at night. Lmao


Did you look at the information related to stock and options? A college professor once told me that we should look for something meant of us in every book, lecture, sermon, speech etc and throw the rest out.

We will never agree 100% with each other, but there is always something to learn if you look hard enough.

If you want to talk to God through comets then listen to that 40 minutes. If you want to make money through investing look at the other stuff.

If you just want to make fun of others we would appreciate if you just stop.

Peace to you!

GuySmiley 02-18-2021 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by 4myfamily (Post 3196603)
Did you look at the information related to stock and options? A college professor once told me that we should look for something meant of us in every book, lecture, sermon, speech etc and throw the rest out.

We will never agree 100% with each other, but there is always something to learn if you look hard enough.

If you want to talk to God through comets then listen to that 40 minutes. If you want to make money through investing look at the other stuff.

If you just want to make fun of others we would appreciate if you just stop.

Peace to you!

people don’t appreciate it when someone tries to scam them, so you shouldn’t act offended when they don’t fall for your scam.
Somehow I don’t get the impression that you are actually are offended, though, I think you’re still trying to rope in some victims, or possibly you get angry when people aren’t interested in letting you manipulate them.
Please try to be a decent human being.

Seneca Pilot 02-18-2021 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by 4myfamily (Post 3196603)
Did you look at the information related to stock and options? A college professor once told me that we should look for something meant of us in every book, lecture, sermon, speech etc and throw the rest out.

We will never agree 100% with each other, but there is always something to learn if you look hard enough.

If you want to talk to God through comets then listen to that 40 minutes. If you want to make money through investing look at the other stuff.

If you just want to make fun of others we would appreciate if you just stop.

Peace to you!


What we would appreciate is you showing proof of long term profitability before asking for money for your "training".

CLE to IAH 02-18-2021 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by 4myfamily (Post 3196603)
Did you look at the information related to stock and options? A college professor once told me that we should look for something meant of us in every book, lecture, sermon, speech etc and throw the rest out.

We will never agree 100% with each other, but there is always something to learn if you look hard enough.

If you want to talk to God through comets then listen to that 40 minutes. If you want to make money through investing look at the other stuff.

If you just want to make fun of others we would appreciate if you just stop.

Peace to you!


shoo!!!!!!!

Meep 02-18-2021 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by coodrough568 (Post 3196278)
That’s all correct. But don’t forget the best details about how several crews drove through the snow and ice to get there, having already been assigned, only to go to the plane and see the management pilots in the flight deck. THEN when they called scheduling they were assigned lost days. At which point they refused and CS went down the list of volunteers, assigning PG’s to anyone who refused.

Whoa, that’s awful!

martyByrde 02-18-2021 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by coodrough568 (Post 3196278)
That’s all correct. But don’t forget the best details about how several crews drove through the snow and ice to get there, having already been assigned, only to go to the plane and see the management pilots in the flight deck. THEN when they called scheduling they were assigned lost days. At which point they refused and CS went down the list of volunteers, assigning PG’s to anyone who refused.

DFW CP brought pizza into the crew room, so all should be good, right?

NoValueAviator 02-18-2021 12:05 PM

IMO its not right to blame Ann for this mess. Ric should probably resign.

martyByrde 02-18-2021 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3196737)
IMO its not right to blame Ann for this mess. Ric should probably resign.

Both Tricky Dic and Dee T.

Cyio 02-18-2021 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3196737)
IMO its not right to blame Ann for this mess. Ric should probably resign.

I agree, this isn’t a chief pilot thing. Ric should go but I don’t think we could be that blessed.

pangolin 02-18-2021 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by martyByrde (Post 3196730)
DFW CP brought pizza into the crew room, so all should be good, right?

Was the crust crispy or soggy? Seriously though I feel for you. I was commuting when I heard a crew call for hotels and was given the sorry you are on your own. That seriously bites.

THKooj 02-18-2021 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3196737)
IMO its not right to blame Ann for this mess. Ric should probably resign.

Typical MO from you guys here. Looking for someone to blame instead of taking a look in the mirror and taking responsibility.

Cyio 02-18-2021 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 3196797)
Typical MO from you guys here. Looking for someone to blame instead of taking a look in the mirror and taking responsibility.

Care to explain what responsibilities we should be taking? This should be rich.

nonononononono 02-18-2021 02:18 PM

"DFW CP brought pizza into the crew room, so all should be good, right?"

is that before or after you get furloughed?

ninerdriver 02-18-2021 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 3196797)
standard Kooj garbage

KOOJ GUIDE TO RECRUITING ENVOY PILOTS
  1. Tell pilots Envoy is great
  2. Yell at Envoy pilots on APC
  3. ???
  4. Furlough

Hey, aspiring regional pilots! This is not how it works at most regional airlines.

TransWorld 02-19-2021 02:21 AM


Originally Posted by Pedro4President (Post 3196948)
Company- hey we are sending you to a place that has heat, water, and electricity who wants to move some planes?
Pilots- I will volunteer I haven’t had many of that in days.
Company- Never-mind we are going to send you to places that don’t have water, electricity, or heat. MAs if you don’t go!

As I sit at a hotel a couple of miles from my place in DFW, due to exactly these same problems, I have to laugh.

dothisbeasa 02-19-2021 03:03 AM

If this past weekend isn’t used as an example to anyone interested in coming to Envoy in the future without major management changes and a serious cultural change. Then we are failing the pilots behind us in ensuring they’re fully aware of what they’re getting into by applying here. Good luck to those waiting to hear from Frontier today I hope we all get out soon.

Av8rPHX 02-19-2021 03:05 AM

This is some shizz I’d expect from a Hulas ran airline,not the Eagle gold standard carrier


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