Most time with the most failed attempts?
It took them a few months and zero failed attempts.

Trolling regional pilots during the worst times of their careers, eh? Class act, CicEda

So Envoy never attempted to get EOW certified before a few months ago? Do you stand by that statement?

Class Act? Like you making fun of somebody's dead grandmother?

Look, no trolling here. I'm happy you guys were finally able to get certified after so many attempts. I'm just saying that you have no grounds to go rubbing it into the faces of other Regionals that may have doubted the ability of Envoy to get certified in a timely manner.

What are these so many attempts? Show us your work.

You know that the last time you accused me of having multiple usernames, I got permanently banned until I proved my innocence to the guys who run this site? Rich, coming from someone who made an account that's one letter off from another user, and then accuses me of being that user. Baseless allegations are all you have.

Not only was it one, very fast approval. Envoy was granted a waiver, with no rafts required.

You’re right, it’s not a big deal. It’s a rubber stamp op spec and some cut and paste info in manuals. What proof do you have that Envoy attempted and failed previously?

Just the beginning.
I mentioned this in the works last year and was laughed out of the room.
Hate to say I told you so...

From a leasing company. Those frames were operated in Europe. Up to 14 more to come potentially.

This was widely rumored for the last 2 years. This is AA’s answer to the UA CRJ550.

You seem like the typical Envoy ******. No one at Republic was seriously denying you guys would get EOW after the MIA base was announced. It was obvious.

"They've been trying for 2 years to get EOW but have failed to be awarded the necessary OpsSpecs twice."

Direct quote. And also the stuff Ciceda was spewing out.
It took just over 3 months, and no failed attempts.

Evidently it coincides with BA Cityflyer removing all six E-170 from its fleet...

Envoy has a pretty awful reputation, so I guess pot meet kettle?

Also, I’ve never heard a single person call any regional mainline except for SkyWest. So either 1) you’re making **** up, or 2) the LGA Instagram pilots are drinking a different recipe of Kool Aid. Both seem plausible.

Never heard someone flex that one. Weirdos should stick to their pseudo social media lives.

Im just a pilot but i think the planes should go where the flying is :)

It seems as if some republic pilots are starting to act like the mainline Skywest pilots... not a good look.

I’m sure they’ll start a jumpseat war now because they are upset and need to focus their energy on something.

Show up for my jumpseat and you’ll get the same reciprocity. Make sure you check-in before OAL, because if not, it’s going to them.

And just make sure you list as aac for the cabin and d7 for the js. Don’t be like Skywest and list as aac and expect the js when the flight ends up being full.

Skywest is mainline.

They own their own airplanes.

D6 was what you meant. D7 is an offline flight attendant jumpseater.

Good to know you are willingly violating the contract which your company signed. There are over 20,000 AAG pilots vs 2,500 YX pilots. Your actions do not favor you and your fellow pilots.

Every envoy pilot should take heed of what this guy is saying. Make sure you email the union with any issues with any jumpseat denials. Be professional when they violate the signed agreement.

Check-in before OAL? We don’t need to check in at republic if we’re sitting in the back, and just so you know, we’re always ahead of OAL pilots on Eagle flights. I’d recommend you to read the jumpseat rules before talking shi+ here, it sounds like you don’t know what you’re doing, dummy.

Looks like life is back to normal when we are fighting about the jumpsseat.

Nobody has needed one until recently.

Last year they tried this same thing in MIA. They demanded that AAG pilots had to re-list as a D6UJ and started handing out papers to gate agents informing them of the new procedure that they had decided was being implemented. While I feel for them, there is no brand loyalty for YX pilots. They can fly a flight for any of the three carriers. You cannot fence them off. If you could, then maybe they could give them some sort of perk, but a YX pilot commuting on an ORD-EWR flight isn’t going there to benefit AA in that base so why should they be able to bump off a NK, B6, DL, etc. pilot? YX signed an agreement and they should honor it. Waking up to the gate in MIA and saying to a pilot trying to get home “yeah, I know this is an AA flight and you’re a D2, but because I don’t like the contract my company signed, I am going to let the Spirit guy have the jumpseat. Tell your management if you don’t like it,” won’t buy an ounce of sympathy from us. Ask me how I know. Starting a unilateral action is not going to end well for anyone. Ok

Uhh, “mainline” is a SkyWest joke, even though it’s been transforming to “heavy”, it’s ours, we like it, please do usurp it for a weak forum fight.

I’ll gladly give a Spirit pilot the jumpseat over an Envoy pilot any day, and I’ll smile ear-to-ear while doing it.

Not following written rules because you don’t like the way it makes you feel is not the flex you think it is, captain.

Correct. The answer is to end the reciprocal like we did with United when United decided to change an agreement. Jumpseat not available.

Good god, what did I miss now? I still feel in the dark about the whole skywest/republic/envoy jump seat issues as I have yet to see it happen. This must be an easy coast thing.

AA put the kabash on the earlier plans. FAA was ready to approve.

You seem like a real cool guy to fly with