Assuming they are finally going to pay them but gave them some ridiculous offer sheet that only a fool would sign?

Facts matter. Nobody was killed. Nonetheless, the company should be much more forthright with the details.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsf...outputType=amp

While I totally get what you are saying, the fact that someone was shot could have easily turned into killed. Kind of splitting hairs here, but I get it. Facts do matter. I am sure the FA union posted something more in depth than what we have seen.

My comment about the FA union passing information was a condemnation about the company and our union not saying anything. I was agreeing with you, perhaps to subtlety.

Was it a nice hotel? Looks nice. Or was there a trend of shady stuff happening for a while? Stupid stuff can happen anywhere anytime, it’s the trends of shady that more concern me.

It's a nice hotel. So nice that everyone forgot that it's actually not a very good 'crew' hotel. No room microwave, no free breakfast, van scheduling issues, doors that somehow could not be closed without a loud slam noise heard by everyone on the floor... but all I ever heard was how nice the hotel is.

Normally high prices help to keep weirdos out of our nicer hotels; however, lately hotels have been doing deep discounts to try to fill rooms, and stimmy bux are allowing some people to "wild out." Many of them are choosing to do it in hotels. Expect an increase in this kind of thing for awhile. Little Rock (another pretty nice hotel) looks like a warzone rn.

Talk softly and carry a BIG STICK

Yeah I would have to agree with this. The trend over the last couple of years is to move us into nicer hotels, but we lose a lot of the benefits that really matter, like the ones above.

Personally I could care less about location. I want a good gym in the hotel, microwave, fridge in my room and a van that is on time. I however totally understand that I am just one person and my tastes and views don’t align with everyones. Some people would rather have a 30 min van ride to a better location.

Overall though I feel like the general quality of our hotels has improved.

I guess what bugs me about this particular hotel/overnight is that we used to stay at a hotel across the street (so essentially the same location). It wasnt quite as “nice” but certainly well beyond nice enough and we got a two room suite with an in room microwave/fridge, a very good free breakfast, free drinks in the evening, and I was never asked to leave the hotel 40 min earlier than necessary (before 6am no less) because the van was busy. But boy do people love this nice hotel.

Agreed. Give me a room with a microwave, a fridge w/freezer, and a decent gym and I will be much happier than being in a classier hotel where I have to go down to the lobby to microwave my spaghetti O’s.

Okay all that is nice but location still does matter eapecialy for those of us that dont pack food for each trip or cant due to the hassle of commuting. LAW for example is a particularly terrible overnight for me since theres pretty much nothing around the hotel. I want hotels that are near some food options or maybe even a grocery store. Some of my favorites are CUU, TYR, and GRK and theres something for everyone. I hate the typical hotel by the highway with a gas station and nothing else we tend to stay at.

I mean, not packing food due to commuting is a choice you make. I know a ton of commuters, myself included, that pack food. Sure, it is one extra step and sure, it can be a small nuisance sometimes, but the commuting argument isnt really valid considering how many people commute while brining food.

I due agree though that we are all different and we all have different priorities, so I am not judging even if it sounds that way.

Thats absurd, you’re telling me you’d rather stay in a fleabag LaQuinta. Rather than ride the elevator down to the lobby at a nice hotel, with a good location lobby to heat up spaghetti Os?

At least the elevators a nice ride! (Sarcasm)

Im sure we can all agree hotels need to have an in room fridge and microwave. Whatever i do pack or even leftovers still need it

I heard walmart has good deals on microwaves maybe we could direct these hotels on where to find some

I agree that microwave and mini fridge is a minimum. I would never choose a place for myself that doesn’t have at least a fridge, especially if breakfast with some kind of decent protein wasn’t provided. Cost aside, eating out 16ish days a month would kill my figure. I wouldn’t be able to moonlight as dancer and flying just doesn’t pay the bills!

I agree that location does matter. But my point was we left a very nice hotel that gave crews everything they'd want for a 'nicer' hotel at the same location that gave crews nothing.

As far as your examples go? CUU, that's in Mexico. The fridge/microwave thing is kinda a moot point when traveling through TSA. But they do have an AWESOME free breakfast and I have no problems with the van. Gym kinda sucks but the location makes up for it (I end up doing a lot of walking anyway). TYR, no problems at all. Has all I want and in a good location. GRK? I've done a lot of turns there. I don't remember if I've ever overnighted.

Honestly, the La Quinta's I've stayed at here haven't been terrible (I know that brand can be though, just hasn't been bad here). So yeah. I'd rather be able to heat up my dinner while I'm changing out of uniform and unpacking my bag rather than doing that and THEN doing the long* travel to the lobby to heat up my food and then doing the long* travel back to my room to eat my now cold food due to the long* journey.

*hotels that seem most insistent on only having a microwave in the lobby have their own overpriced restaurant and place us as far away from the lobby as possible. Think about it. Flea bag hotel... flea bag *******s that are trying to make us pay more for our overnight is more like it. If you don't carry your own food you don't see it, I know. But it's real.

you guys are extremely short sighted and i'm glad we're moving away from "bed bugs ok, just need microwave" type places. None of us make $19k/yr anymore. Let's stay at professional hotels.

Microwaves in the rooms are viewed as a major fire hazard/insurance bump in most states

I would.

We stay at some LaQuinta’s that are honestly nicer than some of the FourPoints and DoubleTrees; more modern, well-kept, cleaner, and always with a microwave and a fridge.

what LQ's would those be? Every single one has the same nasty carpet, same extremely cheap mattress, and same dirty bathroom in my experience.

[QUOTE=pitchattitude;3216830I wouldn’t be able to moonlight as dancer and flying just doesn’t pay the bills![/QUOTE]

Do the ladies tuck bills in your thong?

Our contract requests hotels to provide rooms as far away from elevators as possible. That's where the far away from the lobby thing comes from.

The LQ in HSV is very nice (Borat voice), had none of those problems. RDU isn’t bad either. Compared to our MEM or GRR overnights, I would take LaQuinta every time.

That GRR overnight hotel is gross. The carpets feel, how should I say, moist all the time, yet are dry. Yuck. It is a very bizarre place, with the mattress's sitting with an upward curve to them lol. Looks like you are laying down on a giant U.

Anyway, good luck on the hotel front.

Wait what happened to LIT? Did we go back to our old dump?

Especially if that gas station is in one of those states that forbids them from selling beer. So frustrating!

Mainline stays there too, which is hilarious.

Fairly certain SWA does as well.

That is beyond bad!

For locations they also seem to be around a bunch of car dealerships. Is Envoy trying to tell me something? I dont drive a Hyundai

I have do get dresses to go down to the lobby in hotels like this. Nobody likes a naked pangolin.

Please gents, feel free to bring up on today’s union call your collective love for LQ, and lower, tier hotels. :rolleyes

I get the desire to have access to a microwave and mini fridge (plenty of business class hotels such as Hilton/Hyatt/Crowne Plaza/Marriott, etc., have fridges btw), but for those of us who didn’t go into this profession to eat four days of leftovers out of a cooler, it would be nice to stay in higher tier properties within striking distance of food and stuff to do. We get per diem for a reason. Do you think the road warriors that we traditionally fly would be jazzed about an LQ next to a Waffle House because “yay, I don’t have to walk 20 ft to nuke stuff?” Come on man.

Thank you. I could meal prep, but I get very tired of eating the same thing day after day, plus the time it takes to do it. Slam clicking isnt my thing either so I appreciate our better overnights near stuff and hopefuly thats with a good crew. In my previous post I meant COU not CUU, but I agree that breakfast is realy good!

I think some of our worst overnights could be improved just by trading one Holiday Inn location for another closer to downtown or the local points of interest.

Stop being a drama queen. Just ask the front desk if the rooms have microwaves and heat up your food while you’re already down there.

I can't remember HSV so fair enough I guess. I strongly dislike RDU/GSO though. Those are actually the LQs I think of when I think about the bad aspects of LQs.

They REALLY need to replace those mattresses.

In regards to the per diem comment, cost isn’t the only contributing factor. I bring food for the health benefits. Ask most of the senior mainline pilots and they will pretty much say with certainty that bringing your food is one of the best things you could do. Even high end prepared food at nice restaurants is still horrible for you.

Plus those that are into fitness are usually much better served bringing specific food for their goals.

Regardless, I get we all have different tastes and motivations, I just find it hard to believe that some hotels don’t offer microwaves and fridges.