Above… now that’s an airplane!

“The other RJ” would have more than sufficed. We are flying RJs, and trying not to hit other RJs. “Thanks for your help on the pushback, sorry if a bit slow, just being cautious”

I wonder if the FO went off the reservation or if that was the tone from both pilots.

perhaps the CA wanted the number to apologize for an over zealous FO. I will give benefit of doubt that was the reason requesting a number.

My thought initially too. A “shut up beavis” moment on board followed by a request for number to call and apologize later.

I kinda wondered the same. On more than one occasion I've heard something on the radio, usually ramp or ground where I knew it was the FO, and was certain the captain had to be resisting the urge to backhand the dude sitting to his right.

That was my perception, although a lot of the time when the FO is acting like a stressed out goober like that the CA is part of it too.

If the captain wasn't onboard with the FO's attitude, then the captain owns part of that anyway. They should have either told the FO to quit it or straight taken the radios away.

The other option is, like you said, the captain instigated it via the FO, in which case the captain owns most of it. The FO didn't need to be a ****, so they own that part.

It’s funny because he sounds exactly like most Envoy pilots on the radio. That lazy low toned voice that you can barely comprehend.

The FO is a hat guy. That's all I'm going to say about that.

Oh we already knew that. You could hear him removing it during the third radio call. :cool::D

Any tips or tricks I should know that will make my life a bit easier being a new commuting 145 ORD guy?

Anything specific about the jet that you guys like/dislike?

Everyone is telling me it was TS but they have no proof. Were you able to confirm it was TS?

dislike? About the WSCOD?


all the things. How much time you got?

Lol I’m just trying to make the best of it since I know I’ll be on this plane for the next 2-3 years.

Don’t wanna go into my first airline job hating life just because I’m on a less desirable jet. However I know commuting to reserve will be hell. I’m prepared for that. Mostly just wondering the pros/cons of being on the 145.

The pros, you got a job.
The cons you got a job.
Have to balance.

It wasn’t him, I can confirm

You’re going to go into your first airline job hating life because your first airline job is at envoy.

Get a big tube of KY Jelly for your time on reserve. All joke aside, if you know you’re going to need the jump seat, try to be at the gate early to check in with the CA that way he knows you’re commuting and will (typically) try to get you on.
Some gate agents are not that helpful/friendly.

The actual plane is fine, not sure what the lines look like in Chicago for the 145, but I don’t think they're nearly as bad as the DFW trips

You have no clue what you’re talking about.

There was no TS that has done that flight so far this month.

VAS tends to post these a few months after the event.

The best tip I can offer is resign and go somewhere else.

Junior on the 145 at envoy is a special place in hell.

Maybe look at a previous month as Dera said.

"Next" month is all DECS knows, and next month is now November since it's past the 15th.
Got to go to fos.aa.com and look up the flight number, gate, and origin and destination.

And another MEC Chairman has chosen to leave Envoy for an outside carrier. Looks like ND is heading to JetBlue. Clearly the promise of flow and large sums of cash isn’t working as well as AAG had hoped.

You act as if you're surprised. 2022 is going to be a war for talent among the legacies and majors as our staffing collapses. Latest example being Spirit's new minimums which target our junior FOs. Grab a cup of coffee and listen to the Titanic's string quartet, because that's probably all our mgt has in answer.

I hope the MEC has done a better job than we did recruiting FO's into union positions. We had been stagnant for so long that the union had the benefit of volunteers with years and years of experience. That isn't the case now, and if they don't start getting FO's involved early, they'll lose all the institutional knowledge that had been accumulated with nobody functional to pass it to except a newbie.

They do a pretty good job if that. Unfortunately there are plenty with no experience, period. Someone who has literally done nothing besides flight instructing prior to being hired doesn’t bring much to the table.

those are exactly the ones to target. That way the effort to teach and train is retained within the union the longest. Lifers are another good choice, but have limits on where you put them since you don’t want too many in leadership decision making as their career objectives are not representative of the majority. They make great committee chairman, grievance committee especially…. Not so much as LEC/MEC members. You need a few for perspective but not too many.

My point is you don’t want some young kid who has never had to deal with any kind of management or made significant life decisions trying to represent you when you have a chief pilot or company lawyer up against you.

I agree that everyone’s interests needs to be represented but you need to have some maturity to even know what is in your best interest.

Maybe, but I don't see all these wise, mature, critical-thinking old guys volunteering.... besides, that if that young kid has the same job as the "old/wise" genius does, maybe he/she is doing something right.

No, the lifers are almost all captains and most of the young kids are still FOs. Honestly 1000 hours of 121 time may legally qualify you to be captain but there are plenty that show everyday that they don’t have the maturity. Not that age alone makes you mature. But the lifers are the ones that have figured out their time and energy is better spent on other things.

No, but the new hire young kid is exactly the one to get into a jumpseat committee, P2P volunteer, LEC Grievance committee, ASAP review or other union position where S/he can start learning how to do the internal union stuff. Expense reports, who to contact at the MEC or National, and stuff like that. Start em small and train them to succeed.

A lifer wouldn't be a bad choice for MEC Chair or Vice Chair, but probably not both. The institutional knowledge gets retained, and the elected LEC/MEC Status Reps still direct the show.

Anybody know what hotel they put you in if you’re in STL for sims?

Yes. Same one as for overnights. Check company docs.

that’s probably more helpful that just saying the Drury inn

HAD to get it out there, eh? Just couldn’t refrain and keep it dl. Smh [emoji2359]


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Cost neutral item. Would be nice to get this outdated rule changed.

Slowly getting there, there is a ACMI who just approved beards….