This person clearly has a chip on their shoulder and is rather aggressive in their posts. Not sure what the average Envoy pilot has done to deserve the attitude this guy has with us, but they do nonetheless.

From what I understand it is not Envoy but American as a whole. There are a lot of displaced Miami pilots at Republic who now have to commute to LGA and other bases on always full American flights. Now they are being bumped out of the jumpseat by offline pilots and it is not sitting too well with them, especially when the same doesn't happen to American or AAG pilots on Republic. So as a result this Miami base closure is bringing a new push to to make the agreement reciprocal.

I for one think AA, UA, and DL pilots should get priority over the JS over any offline pilot on Republic flights no matter the code share and I think they are working on a way to make that happen. But the same needs to be reciprocated.

Before anybody gets all worked up, word is that active discussion has started back up (stopped when covid hit) and there has been some progress made on both sides. But some RPA pilots are a little bitter that American closed their Miami base and to add insult to injury can now be bumped off their new commute by an offline.

Never join an airline for a specific base. Everyone knows that. They’re quick to forget when all the MIA Eagle guys were bumped out of there when AA dispersed the flying to republic.

How would any of this actually work though? American, Delta, and United pilots all on time of check in regardless of which company the flight is operating for? So a Delta pilot checks in before an American pilot on an eagle flight and she/he gets the Jumpseat?

Remind those guys that Republic doesn’t have a say on where they fly, it’s the mainline partners that dictates where y’all Republic flies. So those guys can’t be bitter about American closing their base or losing American flying out of MIA as that flying belongs American. In the first place.

Okay? Not sure why you felt the need to bring that up. I guess that is why I said "American" caused the base to be shut down and not "Republic". Thanks for the hot tip though.

yes, you would get priority still on your own code share over UA or DL. And same for them on theirs.

Little contradictory but I think I’m picking up what you’re putting down

Exactly. That flying is American flying and the plan has always been for Envoy to be fully back in MIA and far stronger than ever. Evident even more so now with the heavies being based there. Don't forget, Republic is just a contractor and doesn't own any of their flying. Envoy owns theirs by virtue of being wholly owned by American. AA now needs Republic to fill in the gaps up in NY. For now. As Envoy's 175 fleet grows, you'll see Envoy taking back most if not all of NY as well. I'm sorry for the Republic guys complaining here. It's just what happens when you work for a lowball contractor.

You’re so out of touch, Agent Orange Juice. Republic is 33% owned by AA and their pilots make a heck of a lot more than Envoy pilots do. They voted no on many contracts and eventually got paid more because of it. Much respect is due to them as a whole.

AA moved them out of MIA partly because Delta was taking advantage of the RAH base there and expanding in MIA with the Latam deal. AA was fighting back Delta. Has nothing to do with Envoy or RAH, really.


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