Envoy 2021: A New Hope
07-19-2021 | 11:33 AM
#941
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Good lord, a reaction like this is pretty telling that you either probably know the dev team behind quick trade or you have other issues that need to be worked out. I was providing context as to why we shouldn’t talk about it anymore because it’s a dead issue, the creators screwed it up by illegally accessing DECS. So anyone reading this in order on the most read thread we have in this forum won’t have to bounce around looking for an answer other than “SuCh A tYpIcal MoVe bY tHe CoMpany” as you would say.
We need to honestly focus on getting PBS so we can get access to a system like Sabre FLICA that makes pickups, drops and trading way better. Why haven’t we gotten it yet after the 44th 175 has been delivered?
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We need to honestly focus on getting PBS so we can get access to a system like Sabre FLICA that makes pickups, drops and trading way better. Why haven’t we gotten it yet after the 44th 175 has been delivered?
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But you’re right, there are plenty of deficiencies that need to be addressed and the current limited opener and this current LOA aren’t anywhere close to addressing them.
07-19-2021 | 06:34 PM
#944
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From: Whale FO
because this ancient pilot group is afraid their lives will be ruined because they can’t DTS vacation. Ignore the fact that the OTHER 11 months of the year and QOL as a whole will be better... You’ll be able to make more money..
yea ignore all that. It’s a no vote because they can’t DTS.
yea ignore all that. It’s a no vote because they can’t DTS.
07-19-2021 | 06:44 PM
#945
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I don’t get what you guys are complaining about. PBS was already agreed to (essentially). It is an overall concession by the pilot group. We will get less money.
There is absolutely zero chance that our QOL will improve based on a system implemented by RW and RN. The company has been putting it off so as to avoid the implementation cost and not rock the boat. I say let sleeping dogs lie.
There is absolutely zero chance that our QOL will improve based on a system implemented by RW and RN. The company has been putting it off so as to avoid the implementation cost and not rock the boat. I say let sleeping dogs lie.
07-19-2021 | 06:46 PM
#946
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because this ancient pilot group is afraid their lives will be ruined because they can’t DTS vacation. Ignore the fact that the OTHER 11 months of the year and QOL as a whole will be better... You’ll be able to make more money..
yea ignore all that. It’s a no vote because they can’t DTS.
yea ignore all that. It’s a no vote because they can’t DTS.
Sabre FLICA? Better quality of life? More opportunity to make money?
As long as the pilot haters JE, JD, and RW are in control I wouldn’t count on it. They would NEVER agree to the union having much if any say in filters used when implementing PBS. There’s decades of past history with these people not budging. What makes anyone think that “ this time will be different” is beyond me.
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07-19-2021 | 07:45 PM
#947
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Whether it is PBS or line bidding, just like any other seniority based system, those senior in a status will still be able to get the schedule they want and those who are junior will get $h!+. As long as there is no minimum daily or trip credit, there will continue to be 11 hour four day trips and GRK lost days (probably on the same sequence).
07-20-2021 | 01:32 AM
#948
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You’d lose the ability to have conflicts for training, and vacation. It would take into account your transition schedule and avoid the carryover issues. PBS would also optimize the number of reserve pilots necessary. And could reduce overall headcount. Without a good flight file and strong rules to go with it, PBS is bad for the pilots. It’s not a cure all.
07-20-2021 | 05:15 AM
#949
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You’d lose the ability to have conflicts for training, and vacation. It would take into account your transition schedule and avoid the carryover issues. PBS would also optimize the number of reserve pilots necessary. And could reduce overall headcount. Without a good flight file and strong rules to go with it, PBS is bad for the pilots. It’s not a cure all.
07-20-2021 | 07:01 AM
#950
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You’d lose the ability to have conflicts for training, and vacation. It would take into account your transition schedule and avoid the carryover issues. PBS would also optimize the number of reserve pilots necessary. And could reduce overall headcount. Without a good flight file and strong rules to go with it, PBS is bad for the pilots. It’s not a cure all.
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