Envoy 2021: A New Hope
07-22-2021 | 01:29 PM
#961
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From multiple sources
Lots of new destinations in the future. (Some which may surprise you)
The number of 170s to be acquired is planned and therefore can’t be made public until Dougweiser’s money men give the green light.
As far as increasing fleet numbers, I wouldn’t count on it.
My opinion is they’ll do a one for one swap with the existing fleet of 140/145s
Recruiting is so far behind that it’ll be a miracle to keep cheeks in the seats of what we have numbers wise now.
Expect attrition to increase which will only exacerbate the staffing situation.
Lots of new destinations in the future. (Some which may surprise you)
The number of 170s to be acquired is planned and therefore can’t be made public until Dougweiser’s money men give the green light.
As far as increasing fleet numbers, I wouldn’t count on it.
My opinion is they’ll do a one for one swap with the existing fleet of 140/145s
Recruiting is so far behind that it’ll be a miracle to keep cheeks in the seats of what we have numbers wise now.
Expect attrition to increase which will only exacerbate the staffing situation.
07-22-2021 | 01:50 PM
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Looks like the company at least recognized retention and staffing are becoming an issue but once again offered a short term solution instead of following through with meaningful changes. Those changes were pounced on by the union and even though they “accepted pilot input” they were adopted without a vote. At least this is only giving six months. Hopefully by then things will be worse giving another chance for long term improvements. Unfortunately one downside of attrition out pacing training ability will mean a shrinking pilot group which will stifle flow with the “equation”.
07-22-2021 | 02:38 PM
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Looks like the company at least recognized retention and staffing are becoming an issue but once again offered a short term solution instead of following through with meaningful changes. Those changes were pounced on by the union and even though they “accepted pilot input” they were adopted without a vote. At least this is only giving six months. Hopefully by then things will be worse giving another chance for long term improvements. Unfortunately one downside of attrition out pacing training ability will mean a shrinking pilot group which will stifle flow with the “equation”.
07-22-2021 | 02:56 PM
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Your rep is your vote. Don't like it, change your rep. It has been done before. ZB lead a recall in ORD in the past.
07-23-2021 | 05:14 AM
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Directly from page 47 of the ALPA Policy Manual "Membership Ratification apply to contracts only and will not apply to Letters of Understanding (LOU) or Letters of Agreement (LOA)."
Your rep is your vote. Don't like it, change your rep. It has been done before. ZB lead a recall in ORD in the past.
Your rep is your vote. Don't like it, change your rep. It has been done before. ZB lead a recall in ORD in the past.
07-23-2021 | 05:26 AM
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DFW needs to get their act together imo, we're about to have leverage again and we need a steady hand on the tiller so we don't blow it. Again.
There was no reason to give the company this gift while they're JMing the hell out of us.
There was no reason to give the company this gift while they're JMing the hell out of us.
07-23-2021 | 05:46 AM
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Honestly, the ORD rep who voted no loves him some OT. He did what he saw as right anyway. I give them all credit because it is a tough job balancing what the pilots want and what you view as the best tactical move. Remember that negotiating strategy is kept secret to the extent possible, so they have to sometimes vote a certain way knowing that they have more information than the pilots.
07-23-2021 | 06:26 AM
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