Envoy 2021: A New Hope
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Didn’t realize the Mexico deal was on that fast of a track.
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What other European airframes are there? CityFlier only had six.
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If you remember RW’s email ended with “the potential for more”.
The leasing company that held the notes on the CityFlyer frames has more parked. There were 20 being negotiated for on that deal at the beginning of 1/20. Rona put things on the back burner til much later in the year.
The AeroMexico frames deal came along more recently.
If you think about it, 30 is a good round number. It’s my belief that they’ll use these as a one on one replacement for the 145s as they head for the sunset.
Edit: The company is keeping their cards close to their chests on an actual number since the pocket book strings are held by AAG. As time passes and we prove these planes to be reliably operated, they should get approval for more.
6 airframes configured to 65 seats isn’t enough to make the difference in flexibility that they are shooting for as far as “right sizing” the equipment on a day to day need on routes.
The leasing company that held the notes on the CityFlyer frames has more parked. There were 20 being negotiated for on that deal at the beginning of 1/20. Rona put things on the back burner til much later in the year.
The AeroMexico frames deal came along more recently.
If you think about it, 30 is a good round number. It’s my belief that they’ll use these as a one on one replacement for the 145s as they head for the sunset.
Edit: The company is keeping their cards close to their chests on an actual number since the pocket book strings are held by AAG. As time passes and we prove these planes to be reliably operated, they should get approval for more.
6 airframes configured to 65 seats isn’t enough to make the difference in flexibility that they are shooting for as far as “right sizing” the equipment on a day to day need on routes.
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If you remember RW’s email ended with “the potential for more”.
The leasing company that held the notes on the CityFlyer frames has more parked. There were 20 being negotiated for on that deal at the beginning of 1/20. Rona put things on the back burner til much later in the year.
The AeroMexico frames deal came along more recently.
If you think about it, 30 is a good round number. It’s my belief that they’ll use these as a one on one replacement for the 145s as they head for the sunset.
The leasing company that held the notes on the CityFlyer frames has more parked. There were 20 being negotiated for on that deal at the beginning of 1/20. Rona put things on the back burner til much later in the year.
The AeroMexico frames deal came along more recently.
If you think about it, 30 is a good round number. It’s my belief that they’ll use these as a one on one replacement for the 145s as they head for the sunset.
nine listed at AeroMexico Connect.
“Among the jets that the Mexico City-based carrier plans to return to lessors are all nine of the Embraer E170s flown by its regional affiliate Aeromexico Connect. This would leave the subsidiary with a fleet of just larger E190s.”
https://thepointsguy.com/news/aerome...ankruptcy/amp/
The one that just landed in ABI with a new N number was owned by Bank of Utah, which is likely a leasing company then. Whether or not they have more is another question. But someone said the AeroMexico planes were off the table as they were too clapped out. Time will tell.
Hopefully the new (to ENY) 170s will be some fleet re-growth to get back closer to 200 airframes and be a replacement for 140/145s that were already parked instead of current planes.
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I was told (and maybe wrongfully so) that the planes from Europe were coming from a leasing company, who had been leasing some to CitiFlier. I’m not sure who else was flying the planes
does anyone have an actual definite number of airframes coming? I haven’t listed to the ALPA calls
does anyone have an actual definite number of airframes coming? I haven’t listed to the ALPA calls
That may be outdated info at this point, or they had more insight but weren’t allowed to share it publicly. Still, that’s what they said.
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From multiple sources
Lots of new destinations in the future. (Some which may surprise you)
The number of 170s to be acquired is planned and therefore can’t be made public until Dougweiser’s money men give the green light.
As far as increasing fleet numbers, I wouldn’t count on it.
My opinion is they’ll do a one for one swap with the existing fleet of 140/145s
Recruiting is so far behind that it’ll be a miracle to keep cheeks in the seats of what we have numbers wise now.
Expect attrition to increase which will only exacerbate the staffing situation.
Lots of new destinations in the future. (Some which may surprise you)
The number of 170s to be acquired is planned and therefore can’t be made public until Dougweiser’s money men give the green light.
As far as increasing fleet numbers, I wouldn’t count on it.
My opinion is they’ll do a one for one swap with the existing fleet of 140/145s
Recruiting is so far behind that it’ll be a miracle to keep cheeks in the seats of what we have numbers wise now.
Expect attrition to increase which will only exacerbate the staffing situation.
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