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Old 07-20-2021 | 07:08 AM
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A former Aeromexico E170 just landed in ABI.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...245Z/KGYR/KABI
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Old 07-20-2021 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 3400
A former Aeromexico E170 just landed in ABI.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...245Z/KGYR/KABI
Looks like it’s been bank owned for the last year and parked at GYR all that time. Made a stop in TUS with the AeroMexico tail number, probably to clear customs, before going to GYR. But GYR doesn’t have a lot of space for long term storage, so kind of an interesting home for the past year. Hopefully one of those rumored to come to ENY with more to follow. Last I heard the others weren’t to be online until September.
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Old 07-20-2021 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 3400
A former Aeromexico E170 just landed in ABI.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...245Z/KGYR/KABI
Word on the street is that we will eventually receive 10 of those frames. That’s in addition of the 20 European frames that were negotiated during the scamdemic.
Didn’t realize the Mexico deal was on that fast of a track.
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Old 07-20-2021 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by JungleJetBoss
Word on the street is that we will eventually receive 10 of those frames. That’s in addition of the 20 European frames that were negotiated during the scamdemic.
Didn’t realize the Mexico deal was on that fast of a track.
What other European airframes are there? CityFlier only had six.
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Old 07-20-2021 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
What other European airframes are there? CityFlier only had six.
If you remember RW’s email ended with “the potential for more”.
The leasing company that held the notes on the CityFlyer frames has more parked. There were 20 being negotiated for on that deal at the beginning of 1/20. Rona put things on the back burner til much later in the year.
The AeroMexico frames deal came along more recently.
If you think about it, 30 is a good round number. It’s my belief that they’ll use these as a one on one replacement for the 145s as they head for the sunset.
Edit: The company is keeping their cards close to their chests on an actual number since the pocket book strings are held by AAG. As time passes and we prove these planes to be reliably operated, they should get approval for more.
6 airframes configured to 65 seats isn’t enough to make the difference in flexibility that they are shooting for as far as “right sizing” the equipment on a day to day need on routes.
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Old 07-20-2021 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by JungleJetBoss
If you remember RW’s email ended with “the potential for more”.
The leasing company that held the notes on the CityFlyer frames has more parked. There were 20 being negotiated for on that deal at the beginning of 1/20. Rona put things on the back burner til much later in the year.
The AeroMexico frames deal came along more recently.
If you think about it, 30 is a good round number. It’s my belief that they’ll use these as a one on one replacement for the 145s as they head for the sunset.
30 may be a nice round number, but that is rarely the case. The last information I saw was an article from The Points Guy and there were
nine listed at AeroMexico Connect.

“Among the jets that the Mexico City-based carrier plans to return to lessors are all nine of the Embraer E170s flown by its regional affiliate Aeromexico Connect. This would leave the subsidiary with a fleet of just larger E190s.”

https://thepointsguy.com/news/aerome...ankruptcy/amp/

The one that just landed in ABI with a new N number was owned by Bank of Utah, which is likely a leasing company then. Whether or not they have more is another question. But someone said the AeroMexico planes were off the table as they were too clapped out. Time will tell.

Hopefully the new (to ENY) 170s will be some fleet re-growth to get back closer to 200 airframes and be a replacement for 140/145s that were already parked instead of current planes.
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Old 07-20-2021 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by coodrough568
I was told (and maybe wrongfully so) that the planes from Europe were coming from a leasing company, who had been leasing some to CitiFlier. I’m not sure who else was flying the planes

does anyone have an actual definite number of airframes coming? I haven’t listed to the ALPA calls
The last ALPA call basically said the only solid A/C acquisitions were the 6 from England. Everything else is unsubstantiated Internet rumors and not true as far as they know (they specifically said that).

That may be outdated info at this point, or they had more insight but weren’t allowed to share it publicly. Still, that’s what they said.
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Old 07-20-2021 | 12:07 PM
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From multiple sources
Lots of new destinations in the future. (Some which may surprise you)
The number of 170s to be acquired is planned and therefore can’t be made public until Dougweiser’s money men give the green light.
As far as increasing fleet numbers, I wouldn’t count on it.
My opinion is they’ll do a one for one swap with the existing fleet of 140/145s
Recruiting is so far behind that it’ll be a miracle to keep cheeks in the seats of what we have numbers wise now.
Expect attrition to increase which will only exacerbate the staffing situation.
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Old 07-21-2021 | 04:06 AM
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I think this is a good opportunity to remind people that the guy who Lands by B (taxiway B) exists and is a real POS.
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Old 07-21-2021 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by CLE to IAH
I think this is a good opportunity to remind people that the guy who Lands by B (taxiway B) exists and is a real POS.
Who’s trip did he steal now? Or did you have the unpleasant experience of flying with him?
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