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Old 05-28-2021, 07:55 PM
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The first new hire classes will likely be split between fleets filled mostly with cadets. Gonna be some unhappy folks there.
They’ll survive just fine. I’m sure Envoy will find a way to compensate their hurt feelings.
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They’ll survive just fine. I’m sure Envoy will find a way to compensate their hurt feelings.
a year of phone calls at 0401 to do airport standby at o'hare
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The first new hire classes will likely be split between fleets filled mostly with cadets. Gonna be some unhappy folks there.
Envoy will have to stop hiring...they are in violation of a section 7.
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Old 05-29-2021, 09:03 AM
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Envoy will have to stop hiring...they are in violation of a section 7.
Was it a full guarantee that all cadets go to the 175 if there's vacancy on the 145? If they've got their feelings hurt due to aircraft type then they're fully welcome to envoy.
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Out of curiosity, what’s the upgrade time for both metals. Also, if the upgrade is around the same time, why do the 145 FO’s not transfer to the 175?
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Old 05-29-2021, 11:55 AM
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Out of curiosity, what’s the upgrade time for both metals. Also, if the upgrade is around the same time, why do the 145 FO’s not transfer to the 175?
10,000 year FO seatlock. only way out is upgrade (impossible above like sen#1200 right now), and displacement
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10,000 year FO seatlock. only way out is upgrade (impossible above like sen#1200 right now), and displacement
Oh... so that’s why. I thought a 2 year seat-lock was brutal...

I’m surprised that wouldn’t be a top bucket list item by the Union. Anyways, appreciate the answer, always wonder wtf the deal was with that.
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN View Post
Oh... so that’s why. I thought a 2 year seat-lock was brutal...

I’m surprised that wouldn’t be a top bucket list item by the Union. Anyways, appreciate the answer, always wonder wtf the deal was with that.
it makes day one extremely high stakes here at envoy in terms of your first few years QOL

less so now that they staff the fleets roughly proportionately though, the 145 used to be the surplus new hire dumpster leading to 24 months reserve times while 175 fos had a line the next month after finishing IOE
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Originally Posted by coodrough568 View Post
ENY never guaranteed a cadet the 175, they guaranteed them first pick of the crop. If it’s all 145’s, tough $hit!
But if the class is nothing but cadets, you better have been a cadet a LONG time. 🤣
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Actually according to article 12, Envoy has to furlough 500 pilots
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