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#61
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Normally you never sacrifice seniority, but being seat locked unless you upgrade doesn’t make the seniority list carry the weight it should. This sounds like your seniority at new hire class jeopardizes your entire QOL at Envoy. It shouldn’t work like that.
#62
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If the cadet was smart, he/she may call in to figure out how many cadets are in the class, if the odds are not favorable, move back a class or two.
Normally you never sacrifice seniority, but being seat locked unless you upgrade doesn’t make the seniority list carry the weight it should. This sounds like your seniority at new hire class jeopardizes your entire QOL at Envoy. It shouldn’t work like that.
Normally you never sacrifice seniority, but being seat locked unless you upgrade doesn’t make the seniority list carry the weight it should. This sounds like your seniority at new hire class jeopardizes your entire QOL at Envoy. It shouldn’t work like that.
But yes, normally not seat locked until upgrade.
#63
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That’s the way it is anywhere. You could be hired at a mainline and it was a crap shoot as to what airframes and bases are available. Wide body international and maybe live in base or narrow body and have to commute.
But yes, normally not seat locked until upgrade.
But yes, normally not seat locked until upgrade.
#64
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I’d give even money that anyone getting placed on the 145 right now will get displaced off by the time a “typical” 24mo seatlock would be up anyway. They are staffing it to meet current demand, but the fleet is generally slated to shrink.
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I agree the long term plan was to shrink the 145 fleet, but not sure how much more very soon. That would mean either shrinking Envoy even more or buying more 170s. And I do mean 170s, not 175s. With AAG selling the last six new ones to Republic and Skywest flying another 25, I don’t know how many more large RJs, if any they can add. There aren’t that many 170s out there and AAG just isn’t in the new plane buying mode.
#68
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#69
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tbh if you can't fly the 145 you have no business being an airline pilot anyway, it's not that hard
I no longer fly the type but when I sense weakness I compulsively hit the v/s button, even if im pilot monitoring and regardless of what's going on
I no longer fly the type but when I sense weakness I compulsively hit the v/s button, even if im pilot monitoring and regardless of what's going on
#70
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really me and every other pilot at ENY sees these cadets got too spoiled and entitled thinking they will get whatever they want. People used to make $12 an hour to handfly a Jetstream for 8 hours a day. Get over yourselves. You’ll be lucky to have a job. Look at it that way and you’ll be happier. This industry is rough
Airlines should have to compete with each other to fill classes, that's what is best for all pilots.
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