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Old 05-30-2021, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Approach1260 View Post
For what it's worth it was the new generation of pilots saying no to pay and quality of life like that that led to the regionals not being able to fill classes which forced them to increase pay and QOL.

Airlines should have to compete with each other to fill classes, that's what is best for all pilots.
Exactly, we won't gain anything if everyone keeps working for pennies. A great example is Breeze, I'll be amazed if they can actually staff that place with the current pay rates and requirements.
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Old 05-30-2021, 07:44 AM
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Exactly, we won't gain anything if everyone keeps working for pennies. A great example is Breeze, I'll be amazed if they can actually staff that place with the current pay rates and requirements.
i'm sure many are accepting jobs there thinking exactly that, but there can only be so many free riders hoping the market forces their wages up after the fact, before the airline is minimally staffed
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Old 05-30-2021, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by coodrough568 View Post
really me and every other pilot at ENY sees these cadets got too spoiled and entitled thinking they will get whatever they want. People used to make $12 an hour to handfly a Jetstream for 8 hours a day. Get over yourselves. You’ll be lucky to have a job. Look at it that way and you’ll be happier. This industry is rough
Idiotic thinking like this is why regionals even exist at all.
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Exactly, we won't gain anything if everyone keeps working for pennies. A great example is Breeze, I'll be amazed if they can actually staff that place with the current pay rates and requirements.
We have thousands of pilots on the street with the recent shutdowns, Breeze took advantage of it. You also have the crowd who looks at Breeze as an opportunity to gain a high seniority number by sacrificing their pay now. It’s a huge bet that could pay off nicely. But yes, the current pay rate is terrible.
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Old 05-30-2021, 09:52 PM
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We have thousands of pilots on the street with the recent shutdowns, Breeze took advantage of it. You also have the crowd who looks at Breeze as an opportunity to gain a high seniority number by sacrificing their pay now. It’s a huge bet that could pay off nicely. But yes, the current pay rate is terrible.
Most people who are employed at any regional would not leave for them. Their direct captain qualifications are pretty high too. How many compass pilots, Xjet, trans state, etc are still waiting to find a job or have the quals? For all we know, they advertise the req's but they hire with way less and no type. Who knows.
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Old 06-02-2021, 07:39 AM
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First new hire class consisting of at least cadets is announced for June 21
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Old 06-02-2021, 10:16 AM
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First new hire class consisting of at least cadets is announced for June 21
Assuming they will onboard the cadets and send them home without a base or equipment? If they allow them to bid equipment then the furloughed pilots who are still being brought back would lose their minds. Then again, these cadets are the greatest of all time and should probably just skip Envoy and go right to mainline. Easiest solution is to only offer OFE to them.
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Assuming they will onboard the cadets and send them home without a base or equipment? If they allow them to bid equipment then the furloughed pilots who are still being brought back would lose their minds. Then again, these cadets are the greatest of all time and should probably just skip Envoy and go right to mainline. Easiest solution is to only offer OFE to them.
Actually the true irony would be if they mix a few new cadets in each class with the returning seniority list pilots. Then the cadets will be at the end of the equipment bid.

And I’m sure the returning pilots won’t mind a little bit more paid time off if it means there will be new hires below them on reserve by the time they finish training.
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Does anyone know how many recalls actually came back?
Could they be done getting them in already?
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Does anyone know how many recalls actually came back?
Could they be done getting them in already?
my.envoyair.com/pilotfurlough has the class numbers. They have a lot more to go. Not even halfway done getting them back in class.
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