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Old 10-05-2015 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
Oh, baloney.

Hey, you can say anything you want here. Unlike you or others, I make no demands of others and I don't make demands others be censored. The difference between me and you guys (about 10 or so from Envoy) is that I state a message you dislike and instead of discussing or debating the message, you attack the messenger. It's all you've got as you're bankrupt of valid rebuttal to the message.

Go ahead and review the banter. I for the most part talk about situations and most of you for the most part talk about individuals (me). You've got nothing. Why don't you get something of substance to rebut me ?

Nah.....it's easier to throw rocks at me personally and then go Ostrich by putting me on ignore, isn't it ?

I mean, the same ones come on here every day and attack me for coming on here every day (which I don't) and to get a life. Pure rock-throwing hypocrites bankrupt of valid rebuttal.
Wow, all I am trying to do is show the typical nature of your posts and you have to get all passively aggressive with an over abundance of indignation. But hey, I have nothing so you might as well click on my name and click "ignore user" since you cannot handle posts contrary to your own.

I would question your reading skills if you cling to the "bankrupt of valid rebuttal" since probably one of the most vocal salesman is the one who makes the most clear ones on this board. But since you disagree with him, I guess "valid" is subjective.

It's okay eaglefly, we believe you!
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Old 10-05-2015 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by snippercr
Wow, all I am trying to do is show the typical nature of your posts and you have to get all passively aggressive with an over abundance of indignation. But hey, I have nothing so you might as well click on my name and click "ignore user" since you cannot handle posts contrary to your own.

I would question your reading skills if you cling to the "bankrupt of valid rebuttal" since probably one of the most vocal salesman is the one who makes the most clear ones on this board. But since you disagree with him, I guess "valid" is subjective.

It's okay eaglefly, we believe you!
If I couldn't handle them, I'd do what many of you do...............go Ostrich. But, here I am.

Why would I try to sell something when I have nothing to gain by doing so ? Once again, I see nothing of rebuttal to my message and the same 'ole- same 'ole. You keep saying you believe me at the end of your posts, so why don't you either do that or refute my points ?
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Old 10-05-2015 | 06:08 AM
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Yap-yap-yap. Anybody have validation to the rumor of envoy taking a November Compass 175 order to get the initial cadres moving?
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Old 10-05-2015 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Aviatrx
Yap-yap-yap. Anybody have validation to the rumor of envoy taking a November Compass 175 order to get the initial cadres moving?
I understand the first 175 is coming from the factory. The wings are already assembled.
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Old 10-05-2015 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
If you learned more about the history of Eagle, you'd be less apt to set yourself up for disappointment. I'm casting YOUR employer in a far more realistic light then most of you are (which is a true minority of Envoy pilots) and most of the time, it's not your employer, but some of you along with some of your supposed representatives. The realities of the pilots of Envoy can be found right on EL or TA and it ain't pretty and it ain't from me. Many of you guys are also the quintessential hypocrites as you criticize other pilots, pilot groups and regional carriers with impunity, but then become incensed when the same litmus is applied to you.
I didnt say you weren't casting eagle in a realistic light, did I ? I just asked why do you feel the need to do it ? I thought it was a pretty simple question.

I doubt that TA or EL reflect the realities of Eagle. I doubt even 2% of the pilot group is represented on these forums. You want to know the realities, be a pilot at envoy. Thats valid for any airlines.

Also stop saying " most of you guys " and " many of you guys " when taking to me as you dont see me posting feel good messages constantly like an envoy cheerleader or spend my time bashing other pilot groups.
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Old 10-05-2015 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Aviatrx
Yap-yap-yap. Anybody have validation to the rumor of envoy taking a November Compass 175 order to get the initial cadres moving?
Nope. We are taking delivery of the first 175 that was part of the 60 firm order (20 to compass, 40 to envoy). There was a rumor that erupted when a management person said envoy COULD get some of compass's 175s but I think the quote was taken out of context. There is no mention or plan of receiving any of the Compass 175s with NN tail numbers.
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Old 10-05-2015 | 06:19 AM
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Hey eaglefly, you say all people do is come on here and attack you with no valid point or rebuttal (which is complete BS), so here's a basic question for you. With all three wholly-owners having a negotiated flow, do you believe that the flow will stop for no reason (AAG still hiring off the street, but not from WO's or at least very reduced.) If you do believe that and truly think that all of DP's rah-rah town hall meetings where he hypes the flow as their main source of new-hires is a boldface lie, then please give me a detailed explanation why and what historical basis you have for your opinion.

You see, all you do on here is cry victim but you refuse to actually back it up with anything but your misguided opinions that are void of any sort of facts.
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Old 10-05-2015 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by sublime259
Hey eaglefly, you say all people do is come on here and attack you with no valid point or rebuttal (which is complete BS), so here's a basic question for you. With all three wholly-owners having a negotiated flow, do you believe that the flow will stop for no reason (AAG still hiring off the street, but not from WO's or at least very reduced.) If you do believe that and truly think that all of DP's rah-rah town hall meetings where he hypes the flow as their main source of new-hires is a boldface lie, then please give me a detailed explanation why and what historical basis you have for your opinion.

You see, all you do on here is cry victim but you refuse to actually back it up with anything but your misguided opinions that are void of any sort of facts.
Expect his rebuttal to be "I've already explained many times my point. If you are too [insult, adj] to not see it you must be an envoy salesman. See when ever I post something all that happens is the envoy salesmen continue to come on here and refute my arguments without any fact. Oh well I'm right and you are wrong"

Forewarned is forearmed.
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Old 10-05-2015 | 06:48 AM
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Oh I know, I fully expect his response to be along those lines.
Eaglefly, hit me with some hard numbers and facts, rather then doomsday scenarios painted as facts, I dare ya.
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Old 10-05-2015 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly

...I don't make demands others be censored. ...I state a message you dislike and instead of discussing or debating the message, you attack the messenger. It's all you've got as you're bankrupt of valid rebuttal to the message.
Actually, we've posted the facts, the stats, the charts, and the factual data.
You're the one inventing conspiracy theories where there are none.
I've deleted 90% of your post to save those who choose (no demands) to have you on ignore from having to read it.

Well over 60% of all AA new pilot have come from Envoy this year. It must stick in your craw really badly that this next generation isn't going to have to languish at a regional for decades like you did.

Their 6/2.5 is well on it's way to being reality and you simply can't stand it that guys are going to have better careers than you did. You're just acting like a grumpy old crusty bitter little man trying to make yourself feel better at the expense of others.

Do everybody a favor, get lost. Move on, buy a pet or something.
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