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Old 05-25-2015, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen View Post
They gave out free pizza for lunch today at the envoy training center.
ALPA has done that at every new hire class during indoc week since at least 2011 when I was hired. They like to soften the blow while they're telling you that you'll be paying dues which go directly to Cujo's Disneyland trips and Tony's dinners.

Remember, it's a closed shop so even if you don't want to join the union you'll still pay dues.
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Old 05-25-2015, 06:42 PM
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This thread is tidbits of good information surrounded by so much jealousy and bull**** btching it's hard to read. Mother fracking keyboard Cowboys that call themselves professionals. Go back to trolling Xbox live. *************

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Old 05-25-2015, 07:33 PM
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Remember, it's a closed shop so even if you don't want to join the union you'll still pay dues.
The union has to represent all pilots hired at the airline. All pilots benefit from the negotiated work rules. That is why they still pay the dues.

You wanted to vote in concessions since the beginning and make less money. Now you are whining about making less money due to dues. You are making no sense.
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Old 05-25-2015, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 404yxl View Post
The union has to represent all pilots hired at the airline. All pilots benefit from the negotiated work rules. That is why they still pay the dues.

You wanted to vote in concessions since the beginning and make less money. Now you are whining about making less money due to dues. You are making no sense.
I don't pay union dues for my family's company, we don't have a union. I'm out of the industry thankfully.

My point was that ALPA is incredibly ineffective representing regional pilots and that incompetence is even more magnified at Envoy. You're not being repaid on your investment under ALPA if you work at a regional.
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Old 05-25-2015, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bzzt View Post
I don't pay union dues for my family's company, we don't have a union. I'm out of the industry thankfully.

My point was that ALPA is incredibly ineffective representing regional pilots and that incompetence is even more magnified at Envoy. You're not being repaid on your investment under ALPA if you work at a regional.
Of course you don't pay union dues at a place that doesn't have a union. Family business none the less. Have to worry about protecting yourself there...

You voted for concessions and pushed for it from the very beginning. Just think about that for a second... You are the cause of low pay at the regionals. Then you left.
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Old 05-25-2015, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 404yxl View Post
Of course you don't pay union dues at a place that doesn't have a union. Family business none the less. Have to worry about protecting yourself there...

You voted for concessions and pushed for it from the very beginning. Just think about that for a second... You are the cause of low pay at the regionals. Then you left.
Outch.............
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Outch.............
"Outch?" Seriously? Outch..
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Old 05-27-2015, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot View Post
Another 20 CA vacancies announced. That's 40 upgrades for the month of June.

don't get too excited envoynites.... This is from the PSA thread.

Any words today Cuj? Why don't you tell your minions that some C7's are already gone?

Good Luck!
Word on the street is they took more concessions for that vacancy bid.
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Old 05-28-2015, 05:26 AM
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What is the pay in training? Does anyone think reserve time will come down to something more reasonable like other places?
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Old 05-28-2015, 05:33 AM
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What is the pay in training? Does anyone think reserve time will come down to something more reasonable like other places?
At Envoy or PSA?
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