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Old 05-23-2015 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Tsuda
I wouldn't put to much stock into these PSA naysayers. FirstClass is on a RAH board touting their demise. I guess they feel the need to beat everyone down, so they can continue the airline pyramid scheme. The fact of the matter is a new hire at Envoy will flow faster to AAG then at any other regional.
PDT is faster. 5 years max. Once you are caught in a lie, the rest of your posts become unreadable.
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Old 05-23-2015 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
PDT is faster. 5 years max. Once you are caught in a lie, the rest of your posts become unreadable.
PDT and Envoy are very similar. PSA is 20 years to wait for an interview. Longer when you factor in their 50 seat aircraft getting parked and their inability to staff.
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Old 05-23-2015 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
lol.

filler
Do you have anything of substance to add to the discussion? Are you in the Envoy training center? Have you talked to anybody there? Have you spoken with our POI? Do you have the faintest idea who is running the program? Have you spoken to any of our Check Airman in the program? Initial cadre pilots? Where we are doing sim training at? Who is running our ground school program? Do you know what our delivery schedule is? How many Ca and Fo awards were on the last vacancy for that aircraft? You incessantly spout off as if we will never see the 175 but you have no clue as to the reality of the situation.
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Old 05-23-2015 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Buzzlightyear
Do you have anything of substance to add to the discussion? Are you in the Envoy training center? Have you talked to anybody there? Have you spoken with our POI? Do you have the faintest idea who is running the program? Have you spoken to any of our Check Airman in the program? Initial cadre pilots? Where we are doing sim training at? Who is running our ground school program? Do you know what our delivery schedule is? How many Ca and Fo awards were on the last vacancy for that aircraft? You incessantly spout off as if we will never see the 175 but you have no clue as to the reality of the situation.
The very least PSA can do as they replace the Envoy pilots is replace them with professional and qualified pilots. With the majority of PSA posters on here it shows that is not happening.
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Old 05-23-2015 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
PDT is faster. 5 years max. Once you are caught in a lie, the rest of your posts become unreadable.
Envoy 6 year flow is a new hire projection. PDT's 5 year number that you talk about is a projection also. All projections should be seen as such. PDT has had 21 flows in the last 7 months.
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Old 05-23-2015 | 11:37 AM
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Envoy does appear to be getting better, not quite as good as management wants Cujo/Mason32 to make everyone believe, but better.

It's a fact that AA has asked other regionals to deliver feasibility reports concerning more ERJ flying, whether anything comes of that is pure speculation. The bottom line is no regional in this environment is a safe bet. Flow is a very nice thing as it is incredibly hard to get hired at a legacy as an average line pilot. I just doubt it's mathematically possible for Envoy to recruit enough pilots to satisfy 50% of every AA class going forward.
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Old 05-23-2015 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bzzt
Envoy does appear to be getting better, not quite as good as management wants Cujo/Mason32 to make everyone believe, but better.

It's a fact that AA has asked other regionals to deliver feasibility reports concerning more ERJ flying, whether anything comes of that is pure speculation. The bottom line is no regional in this environment is a safe bet. Flow is a very nice thing as it is incredibly hard to get hired at a legacy as an average line pilot. I just doubt it's mathematically possible for Envoy to recruit enough pilots to satisfy 50% of every AA class going forward.
It is easy to staff a regional that has a real flow. Compass is a prime example. Replaced 60% of it's workforce in 1.5 years. Envoy will do the same.

PSA will struggle and will shrink because they don't have a flow.

Looks like the concession voting, terrible annalist, Bzzt is back.
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Old 05-23-2015 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Buzzlightyear
Do you have anything of substance to add to the discussion? Are you in the Envoy training center? Have you talked to anybody there? Have you spoken with our POI? Do you have the faintest idea who is running the program? Have you spoken to any of our Check Airman in the program? Initial cadre pilots? Where we are doing sim training at? Who is running our ground school program? Do you know what our delivery schedule is? How many Ca and Fo awards were on the last vacancy for that aircraft? You incessantly spout off as if we will never see the 175 but you have no clue as to the reality of the situation.
Obviously yes or I wouldn't have said anything.
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Old 05-23-2015 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 404yxl

PSA will struggle and will shrink because they don't have a flow.
Just as soon as were done growing by stealing your airplanes, we'll get right back to shrinking. duh...
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Old 05-23-2015 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
Just as soon as were done growing by stealing your airplanes, we'll get right back to shrinking. duh...
You're stealing Compass's airplanes?
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